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  1. #181

    need some help with demo pls

    hey brezbrah, just had a quick look at jinrok hc, first thing i noticed, durung the fight the warlock had proccs of the windsong weapon enchant, he changed now to jade spirit, it lokks like he is not keeping up rain of fire on the boss the whole fight, also only 5 chaos bolts and 2 shadowburns is not enough for a 3min fight, i think he should watch brusalks destro guide (first post of the destro guide in this forum), he should save embers for strong buffs/trinket proccs, that's all i noticed so far

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    need some help with demo pls

    my itemlvl is 531 with 8600 haste and about 8k mastery, I have the meta gem and the uvls trinket, I feel like I’m underperforming, also I noticed I don’t get those high dps numbers at the start other ppl have
    (watched some videos), even though I get a uvls procc at the start of a fight

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/4...um/damageDone/
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...C3%A2/advanced
    Last edited by Maldora; 2013-08-14 at 10:45 AM.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Norgeth View Post
    Hello guys i have som issues playing in demonology. I i would need some help.
    worldoflogs.com/reports/99j586zbua5f6b3k/?s=7531&e=7795
    eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ragnaros/Norgeth/advanced
    any suggestions are appricieted
    Read guides, browse logs, and use common sense. There is plenty of great guides on here and on icy veins. However, these guides will be subject to change when 5.4 hits so please keep that in mind.

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  3. #183
    Just want to throw this out here to look for any improvements. This isn't a fix my dps as much as it is asking for helpful advice. Thanks!

    worldoflogs.com/reports/md8rmz17axuqbbz6/

  4. #184
    Hey Guys, basically i know the specs i play, know the caps, know the rotation, or at least so i feel but i'm still wanting to get up and into the 95th percentile margine found on raidbots. So im just looking for some advice or tips of where im going wrong / can improve in order to get there. Thanks

    Logs:

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/146758/

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-vd85c8pq7gbj9ggv/

    armory

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Crash/advanced

    Crash is my characters name if it helps

    I look forward to any feedback

  5. #185
    Hey there, here is my armory:
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lyann/advanced

    Here is my question, is the 13,737 haste cap really worth it? Is that going to help me with the best possible DPS as far as reforges/gems/etc?

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Marionette View Post
    Hey there, here is my armory:
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...lyann/advanced

    Here is my question, is the 13,737 haste cap really worth it? Is that going to help me with the best possible DPS as far as reforges/gems/etc?
    Short answer, no it's not. You should be stacking mastery after you hit the goblin haste break point of 9261.

    9778 haste > mastery if you're not a goblin.

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  7. #187
    Hello dear warlocks.

    I'm raiding in 25man guild and we are progressing HC Lei Shen currently. I'm playing as affliction warlock and I think I'm pulling decent dps before first transition but after that, my dps goes down. Here are some logs (http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-aqc41q2rzhkzdwoq/ my warlocks name is Tautine) and my armory (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Tautine/simple). Questions are:

    - Should I use SoC at all when lightning balls spawn? (We normally have 2 dks so they can grip them everytime) or should I just focus on dpsing Lei Shen?
    - Should I spec demonology for this fight? I don't have the uvls trinket but I do have 4 set of T15. If I should spec to demonology, should I gem for crit?

    Any help appreciated, thanks.

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittyburger View Post
    Hello dear warlocks.

    I'm raiding in 25man guild and we are progressing HC Lei Shen currently. I'm playing as affliction warlock and I think I'm pulling decent dps before first transition but after that, my dps goes down. Here are some logs (http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-aqc41q2rzhkzdwoq/ my warlocks name is Tautine) and my armory (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Tautine/simple). Questions are:

    - Should I use SoC at all when lightning balls spawn? (We normally have 2 dks so they can grip them everytime) or should I just focus on dpsing Lei Shen?
    - Should I spec demonology for this fight? I don't have the uvls trinket but I do have 4 set of T15. If I should spec to demonology, should I gem for crit?

    Any help appreciated, thanks.
    Demonology will always shine on fights that require lots of burst aoe. In this case, demonology is still perfectly viable without uvls. As affliction your ball dps will be abysmal so you're better off focusing the boss. Truthfully, you're gimping your raid by not playing demonology.

    “The only thing that burns in hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life: your memories, your attachments. They burn 'em all away. But they're not punishing you,' he said. 'They're freeing your soul. Relax.”

  9. #189
    Hello there!

    I'm returning to this thread once again in search for some advice as to what i can change to improve my general performance. Before when i posted i was discussing my problems with my destruction spec but now i'd like some help with my Demo spec.

    Here is a link to my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...kkrotic/simple

    Got some parses here: http://worldoflogs.com/guilds/268844/

    Thanks again for your help fellas. I really appreciate the time you take to help out the community!

    --Nekkrotic
    Last edited by Nekkrotic; 2013-09-02 at 01:01 AM.

  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekkrotic View Post
    Hello there!

    I'm returning to this thread once again in search for some advice as to what i can change to improve my general performance. Before when i posted i was discussing my problems with my destruction spec but now i'd like some help with my Demo spec.

    Here is a link to my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...kkrotic/simple

    Got some parses here: http://worldoflogs.com/guilds/268844/

    Thanks again for your help fellas. I really appreciate the time you take to help out the community!

    --Nekkrotic
    Hi again! Not going to go as in-depth as making a vid about it this time...

    I'm looking at your Twin Consorts log since that has a pretty good potential for demo locks.

    I notice you're opening with Curse of the Elements on lu'lin. While I recognize the need to get that curse out asap, you're able to pull off something abit more interesting on Suen before she disappears. I assume you're running with a pull timer, and if that is the case then I would like to suggest you to try a bit more "high risk high reward" opener. Check out this video, and notice what I am doing to Suen in the opener. It takes me 1 second to get all my procs up and a double Doom on her, but that means I'm swimming in imps, fury - and dps for the next 2 minutes. What I do is that roughly 0.7 sec before timer reaches 0 I cast a Fel Flame on her, then I spam the following macro directly after while I pray intently to RNGesus that UVLS procs:

    #showtooltip
    /stopcasting
    /cast Berserking
    /use 10
    /cast Dark Soul: Knowledge
    /cast !Metamorphosis
    /cast Corruption
    This means I'll be without my service pet and without my imps when I'm in metamorphosis with dark soul, but imo the gain weighs up for the minimal loss that is. After making that video I've started running that fight as Grimoire of Sacrifice, and my best parse with that particular opener is something around 290-300k. The fight itself is not hard, it's more about being able to game the procs and getting them in the right moments, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. It's just a game of lottery.

    Even if you're not going to use that opener though, I'd suggest taking a look at this video made by Sparkuggz of Method. While the fact that he uses a macro for his opener is going to get bashed by the tryhard elitists on this board, I urge you to follow his process of thought. He's conscious about leaving as little chance as possible to when he gets the UVLS proc, and for that reason this opener will in 95% of the cases lead you to enter meta exactly when you get uvls - after having done all of your other GCDs that you'd otherwise have to do while in meta, meaning inefficient use of time.

    Gems

    I see you're gemming intellect. In this fight in particular (as well as others, such as council, horridon, tortos, dark animus, any add fight), you're going to be so high on fury that mastery might just be better due to the inflated Metamorphosis uptime. Also, since you have at least the 2-set, try reserving most of your soul fires for metamorphosis.
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  11. #191
    Hello everyone,

    There is a warlock in my 10 man group that we believe he's kinda subpar, so we'd like to help him.

    Could you guys please give some advice as to how improve his gameplay / dps?

    Some info to help you guys:

    us.battle.net/wow/en/character/azralon/doncapetone/advanced
    worldoflogs.com/guilds/286246/

  12. #192
    I'm not an expert but two quick things I noticed the first of which is his immolate uptime at an average whopping 50-60% is just plain unacceptable this along with how shaky his RoF uptime is he losing a lot of embers hence a lot of chaos bolts. The next are his trinkets, che ye's is good for destro atleast but shado-pan trinket is garbage, hell there's certain tier 14 trinkets that are better then it, tell him to start doing some raid finding, practically any lfr RPPM trinket is an upgrade for destro and the one that isn't UVLS will let him go demo.

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    Hey guys,

    I'm switching from my Mage to my Warlock (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...zrael/advanced) for next tier. Our server has an endless source of Mages and no source of Warlocks, and I'm willing to change up the pace a bit.

    Now I'm not looking for an Armory evaluation. I know my gear is far from perfect and possibly my reforging/gems aren't optimal either. I can fix this on my own though, so that's not an issue.

    I would like you guys to have a look at some parses and provide me some general feedback as you're much more knowledgeable than I am. This was my first raid as Demo (and only 3rd on my Lock overall since Vanilla).
    -Megaera: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/h...?s=4058&e=4410
    -Durumu: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/h...?s=6628&e=6877

    I'm linking these 2 because they are fairly straightforward fights and it's easy for me to improve on them. I tried Horridon as Demo too but I screwed up way too much, so I'll have a look at how I should be handling the fight first before asking for feedback .

    Thank you.

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    Looking for some help/education for our lock.

    We asked one of our mains to switch from his monk to a lock. Really good player but has little experience when it comes to his lock.

    Our guild doesn't have anyone he can ask.

    After looking at this log-

    What is he doing wrong? If anything.

    He has a 528ivl (no meta).


    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/v...?s=9596&e=9833


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  15. #195
    The warlock in my guild is lagging behind everyone else in damage, whilst his ilvl is slightly below everyone else, it is not awful and he was recently out dps'd by a 520ilvl alt priest in a flex run.

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Quro/advanced

    I have a wide selection of logs to give a good look at what he is doing
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=3683&e=4065 Our Ra-den kill
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=5086&e=5668 Our Lei-shen kill
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...um/damageDone/ All the bosses we killed last night in SoO

    Whilst he doesn't have his meta/cape yet due to switching mains during ToT, his damage is still below what it should be.

    Any help would be appreciated as no one in the guild plays a warlock and can correct him or give him any advice.
    Last edited by Bobum; 2013-09-15 at 05:16 AM.

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    Hi Bobum.

    Haste
    His haste rating is at 7646 at the time of writing this, and that is below the most noteworthy breakpoints for either Doom or Shadowflame. I would recommend for him to get 8097 haste at least, so his Doom get 2 more ticks. An alternative he can test out is the 12873 Shadowflame breakpoint as well, although I've seen good results with both breakpoints, so which one he picks is mostly a preference.

    Checking through your logs, I can see that he uses Touch of Chaos a lot, much more so than he does Soul Fire while in Metamorphosis. According to your Ra-Den kill, that was done before 5.4 hit, so back then casting Soul Fires from Metamorphosis was basically the way to go. The higher his mastery rating, the higher those Soul Fires are going to hit for from Meta, and since his 2-piece reduces the fury cost by 30%, he doesn't need to worry about the cost of doing so.

    Trinkets
    He is also using a rather daring trinket combination I'd say. The normal combination would be something like UVLS + Both/Cha-ye (speaking T15 here), or Wush + Both/Cha.ye - the fact that he has both Wush and UVLS opens him up to bad rng just as much as good rng. If stars aligns he'll get a great streak of luck and should do very high dps for an encounter. But stars will have to align.

    Gems
    Regarding gems it appears he does not know his relative stat weights for his secondary stats. It's many ilvls ago that pure intellect gems were preferrable over secondary ones, especially mastery. Advice him to go hybrids with int and mastery in red sockets, and mastery / hit in blues, and pure mastery in yellow sockets. Some people may argue this boils down to preferance, but I disagree, I did extensive testing myself at the end of T15 in a lot of variations in gems, and that was by a noteable margin the best way for me to go - and me and him were in comparable gear back then.

    Legendary Meta
    I do notice he lacks the legendary meta gem. For particularily Demonology, this gem is a must-have. Without it, I can totally understand him starting to lag behind as everything is so to speak balanced around them. The interaction with 100% crit dooms and 30% extra haste is too good to pass up, and a big chunk of his actual dps.

    I currently do no longer play Demonology, so I'll refrain from giving advice I'm not 100% solid on for the SoO encounters, but I do think the above points are valid.
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  17. #197
    hi guys im new to aff, currently going main as destruction, but I see aff is becoming way way too dominant and i've tried it out several times to no success, and everywhere i see mastery as #1, but i seem to be pull more as destruction, i've read here and there it could potetinally be my bindings of immereus. any help would be greatly appreciated.

    current dps as destruction seems to be about 120k-160k
    current dps as aff is 100k~

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Apolaan/simple

  18. #198
    Hey guys - need some help right now. I think I am pulling the max dps possible in my gear and with my current haste rating, my uptimes are matching those of my fellow warlock guildies, although they both have the meta + cloak. Not sure if because I can't physically reach the haste pt of 9778 in my gear, maybe I should go destro or demo in the meanwhile? At least until I get the meta gem?

    Here are my logs for Immerseus, Protectors, Norushen + Sha. Don't pay attention to galakras too much.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-hl5s2ha68f0dpome/

    My armory

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...arley/advanced

  19. #199
    Hey guys, long time lurker here. We just killed Garrosh and we feel that our warlock's dps is weak.

    Here are the logs:
    www .worldoflogs .com/reports/5g1f44t1kgwqwno3/

    His armory:
    us .battle .net/wow/en/character/ragnaros/Faphex/advanced

    Next week we are starting heroics so any tips and feedback are much appreciated.

    Edit: In regard of gear he also has old t15 and Frenzied Crystal of Rage.
    Last edited by SoNNoR; 2013-09-20 at 12:18 PM.

  20. #200
    destro- http://i.imgur.com/YucCwcu.jpg

    afflic- http://i.imgur.com/mlWJ7nD.jpg

    sorry for a bit of the clutter of afflic, i wanted to stop them at the exact same time

    here's 2 logs of dark soul to dark soul

    rotation opener for destro

    immolate dark soul double conflag chaos bolt spam incinerate until can chaos bolt still under dark soul, then just normal rotation

    opener for afflic
    pre cast haunt, dark soul soul swap, get intel procs, wait til they're about to run out because wusholay, refresh last sec, malefic grasp keep haunt up

    with self buffs it's a bigger marigin.

    Why does my afflic dps suck?

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ztharot/simple

    i have haste breakpoint, then flat mastery

    suggestions? Afflic is "so far ahead" of destro, but i can't seem to make it work

    edit: in siege, 7/14, finishing raid sunday. I wanna go as afflic, but can i make the numbers work? will id o better dps with buffs or what

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