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  1. #401
    Hey guys! I'm looking for any tips/tricks you might be able to give to help me improve my performance in raids. I main destro and I've recently started to try affliction on protectors (poorly). Tips or either spec will be greatly appreciated. My guild is also progressing on spoils/thok so any warlock specific tips for those fights would be appreciated too.

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Trift/advanced
    WorldofLogs: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-tp1o366xrpm6fny1/

  2. #402
    Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster. Im currently a 568 ilvl demo lock looking to improve my DPS. I haven't been able to record my own logs so I have been fortunate that I have been able to get in pugs that record and post public logs.

    Previously, I had noticed that my doom and corruption uptime was very low so I have been working to improve uptime's and maintaining buffed corruptions and reapplying doom with nice procs (with the use of aff dots of course.). I have also made improvements to my UI to utilize WA's to show DS:K duration as well as 2-set bonus procs, and LMG and jade spirit activations.

    Since I am unable to post logs quite yet, you can find a few recent attempts at 568 ilvl in a recent 25N pug i was in with Grand Illusion -Mal'Ganis US. I had never done 25 man before so it was definitely a slight change for me


    If someone could perhaps look over some of these logs and perhaps fill me in on what else I could improve on?


    I have had a very difficult time transitioning to destro this tier and decided its much better for me to improve on a spec I enjoy to play rather than try to learn something new. I'd appreciate any advice on ways to improve; thank you in advance!

  3. #403
    Hi folks, I was wondering if I could get some help if possible. I recently swapped servers, going from a 10n alt run (as my main) to a 25H progression guild currently working on Siegecrafter. I'm still getting used to the heroic mechanics, and the 25 man changes, but I'm massively lagging behind the other warlocks. It's at the point where it's embarrassing, honestly... That being said, maybe you can see something that I'm not.

    Worldoflogs link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/274320/
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ezzap/advanced

    Thanks in advance!

  4. #404
    Hey guys,
    i recently went from playing ele shaman to Warlock for my guild and i'm struggling to keep up with other locks that are in the guild,
    And i'm just at the point where i need some advice as i can't seem to really see a change in my dps overall

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...revor/advanced

    (Mind you when i did these logs i was significantly lower in gear)
    (and can't quite make the 13737 haste breakpoint)

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done (Iron Jugg)

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done (Malkorok)

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...pe=damage-done (Sha)

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by wateva; 2014-03-15 at 08:08 PM. Reason: Inc info about haste breakpoint

  5. #405
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    I last raided properly in September and winded up taking a longer break than anticipated (was 3/14 HC in SoO at that point) and have recently started raiding again.

    I'm feeling like I suck and have lost so much momentum as a result. When I was last playing Affli was all the rage and frankly Destro has never been my favourite spec. I'm thinking that i'm playing too safe when it comes to Chaos Bolting and spamming incin far too much.

    I logged all of this reset's raids, below, and armoury: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Jés/advanced

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GzLqwjhX7MDFvVpP

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CWtqKxbghaHRBzLd

    I've played warlock at a World top 25 level before and so am hoping that I simply do not suck now and that I need someone else to be brutally honest and point out my mistakes.

    Thanks!

  6. #406
    Quote Originally Posted by Xdenek View Post
    I last raided properly in September and winded up taking a longer break than anticipated (was 3/14 HC in SoO at that point) and have recently started raiding again.

    I'm feeling like I suck and have lost so much momentum as a result. When I was last playing Affli was all the rage and frankly Destro has never been my favourite spec. I'm thinking that i'm playing too safe when it comes to Chaos Bolting and spamming incin far too much.

    I logged all of this reset's raids, below, and armoury: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Jés/advanced

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GzLqwjhX7MDFvVpP

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CWtqKxbghaHRBzLd

    I've played warlock at a World top 25 level before and so am hoping that I simply do not suck now and that I need someone else to be brutally honest and point out my mistakes.

    Thanks!
    Hey, I'll give you my 0.02$. :-)

    Firstly, you need the 4-set bonus. It's rather great for ember regen. Also, I see you're playing with Supremacy. This at least does support your notion of playing it safe, but the nature of most fights in SoO does not. I'm not saying it's a bad choice, just that sacrifice has more headroom for optimal play with ember usage.

    Secondly I notice you have a lot of int/mastery gems instead of exp/mastery. I assume this stems from the fact you have a lot of inherent hit on your items. As soon as you replace some of these hitbombs, you should concider swapping out int/mast for exp/mast, to allow you to reforge more out of hit into mastery.

    I notice you're currently specced into AD. Be aware that AD is an incredibly weak cooldown, and all it gives you is 1 more usage of it compared to not. In the haste/supremacy build, you don't put as much weight into your chaos bolts, meaning your incinerates become more important. In my opinion this should mean that you should reconcider AD vs KJC, due to the latter allowing you more time spent casting Incinerates.

    Currently I cannot view the logs due to problems loading the page. I'll update this post if it works later; otherwise someone else can do that part.
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  7. #407
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarinth View Post
    Hey, I'll give you my 0.02$. :-)

    Firstly, you need the 4-set bonus. It's rather great for ember regen. Also, I see you're playing with Supremacy. This at least does support your notion of playing it safe, but the nature of most fights in SoO does not. I'm not saying it's a bad choice, just that sacrifice has more headroom for optimal play with ember usage.

    Secondly I notice you have a lot of int/mastery gems instead of exp/mastery. I assume this stems from the fact you have a lot of inherent hit on your items. As soon as you replace some of these hitbombs, you should concider swapping out int/mast for exp/mast, to allow you to reforge more out of hit into mastery.

    I notice you're currently specced into AD. Be aware that AD is an incredibly weak cooldown, and all it gives you is 1 more usage of it compared to not. In the haste/supremacy build, you don't put as much weight into your chaos bolts, meaning your incinerates become more important. In my opinion this should mean that you should reconcider AD vs KJC, due to the latter allowing you more time spent casting Incinerates.

    Currently I cannot view the logs due to problems loading the page. I'll update this post if it works later; otherwise someone else can do that part.
    Thanks for the feedback - my armoury is set to soloing stuff (old content etc), i'm actually raiding with KJC instead of AD and using GoSac rather than GoSup.

    Good point about the blue gem slots by the way, hit drops seem to love me, have made a good note of that. Agree about tier bonuses too!

  8. #408
    Hey guys, my DPS as destruction feels a bit low ATM compared to where it should be at for my ilvl across the board and I'm not quite sure why(Destro) I'm Keilosh in the logs. Any ideas?


    World of Logs:http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-f398vfhhs5ulkcso/
    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Keilosh/simple

  9. #409
    Quote Originally Posted by Alarinth View Post
    I notice you're currently specced into AD. Be aware that AD is an incredibly weak cooldown, and all it gives you is 1 more usage of it compared to not. In the haste/supremacy build, you don't put as much weight into your chaos bolts, meaning your incinerates become more important. In my opinion this should mean that you should reconcider AD vs KJC, due to the latter allowing you more time spent casting Incinerates.
    Can someone else comment on this? I was under the impression AD is the only way to go with placing RoF during movement... ?

  10. #410
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    Quote Originally Posted by land View Post
    Can someone else comment on this? I was under the impression AD is the only way to go with placing RoF during movement... ?
    AD really isn't all that special for Destruction. Especially compared to how strong it is for Affliction/Demonology.

    30% crit is pretty weak, plus incinerate is huge not only for damage but also for building embers.

  11. #411
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    Just as a follow on - I raided tonight and played more aggressively and numbers seemed to go up quite a lot.

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1tghJd8ALQPZGa7w

    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PnbCW7BG3Zg8T4Fv

    Still looking for tips and hints!

  12. #412
    Hey,
    just thought id post on here to see if anyone has something to say.

    Recently started raiding in a 25M Heroic guild (First time ever doing 25M) and feel that my dps is a little bit lacking, I feel I can get more dmg out of adds aswell as havocs and shadowburns but thats really all I can think of atm. Anyways cant post logs since havent posted enough but can find it on warcraftlogs.com for Excessive Frowning - Illidan Should be the two most recent on there (Im dotnet)

  13. #413
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    new warlock, raided hc this week. any pointers on my heroic protectors kill? Destruction, http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...31fBmg#fight=8
    gems etc reforge i think is right for my ilvl.

  14. #414
    Link to armory and logs:

    Just want to see if I am missing any potential dps

    us(dot)battle(dot) net/wow/en/character/thrall/D%C3%B6tpocket/advanced

    worldoflogs(dot) com/reports/rt-tboz8j07zk3unfm6/

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    Hey guys, I need some help with a destro warlock in my guild. We are 8/14 heroic and he's really starting to fall behind.

    Here's a report from our most recent raid: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tPBw7hjRLpNm4F8K

    and here's a link to his armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...athen/advanced

    I'm aware he has no tier bonus and a shitty cleave trinket, but it really doesn't explain or excuse being 90k DPS behind on some single target fights (like Dark Shaman, which is as close to patchwork as you'll get with the strat we use). Any help is appreciated!

  16. #416
    Quote Originally Posted by Karfragnor View Post
    Hey guys, I need some help with a destro warlock in my guild. We are 8/14 heroic and he's really starting to fall behind.

    Here's a report from our most recent raid: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tPBw7hjRLpNm4F8K

    and here's a link to his armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...athen/advanced

    I'm aware he has no tier bonus and a shitty cleave trinket, but it really doesn't explain or excuse being 90k DPS behind on some single target fights (like Dark Shaman, which is as close to patchwork as you'll get with the strat we use). Any help is appreciated!
    First of all, not having the immerseous trinket suck for destro. Second, he needs to have very good procs monitoring (WA or TMW addons) for that and time his DarkSoul with their procs. He isn't doing this by checking this log: http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...t=11&target=85

    That is a massive mistake.

    Another one is his shadowburn usage, according to sparkuggz's video you shouldn't be really using it as soon as u get to 20%. He say that you should still try to use Chaos Bolts along with cds, even during burn phase. Only use it if u see you won't be able to get a CB off before a good proc runs out etc.. Check his lastest video, it has some very good tips on how to play destro properly. I think its called "destro workshop 1" or something like that.

    Another thing i noticed, he was using the wrong lvl 90 talent (IMO) for a fight like that (Iron Jug). Theres way too much movement in that fight that completely makes KJC a better choice for this fight (IMO).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidsteel View Post
    AD really isn't all that special for Destruction. Especially compared to how strong it is for Affliction/Demonology.

    30% crit is pretty weak, plus incinerate is huge not only for damage but also for building embers.
    Cool. Now that I've been playing more on my lock I see how KJC is very good for some fights, specially ones that you are still kinda getting used to positioning.

  17. #417
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    I'm currently progressing on Paragons Heroic as a trail and I'm wondering if I can do anything better.

    Logs: www worldoflogs com/reports/0abaun7pkjqbbv5x/

    Video: www youtube com/watch?v=wsmpeN3xpDo (attempt 13)

    Video 2: www youtube com/watch?v=HSfwhikyq-g (attempt 10)
    Last edited by mmoce17ce7b114; 2014-04-09 at 11:46 PM.

  18. #418
    Quote Originally Posted by ragonfu View Post
    I'm currently progressing on Paragons Heroic as a trail and I'm wondering if I can do anything better.

    Logs: www worldoflogs com/reports/0abaun7pkjqbbv5x/

    Video: www youtube com/watch?v=wsmpeN3xpDo (attempt 13)

    Video 2: www youtube com/watch?v=HSfwhikyq-g (attempt 10)
    Instead of soul link, you can run dark bargain, to solo soak an aim.
    or sac pact + Go Sac, if your part of a group to help people soak aims.

    Thats all i saw i didn't get a chance to watch both, and only partially one of them, i'll update it later when i get the chance.

    Apart from that, a few things, especially during the korvon burn noticed you were burning your CB's early without any proc's and ignoring the 4p proc's, minor thing,
    At the start of the fight, save your DS till after your 2x conflag

    Just little things,
    Last edited by wateva; 2014-04-13 at 10:33 AM.

  19. #419
    im struggling with dps on the big adds on the outside on hm norushen with both destro and aff. any advice on how to handle them?

    here is my armory

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...piteran/simple

    and here is the wol from the kill

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/q...=12126&e=12525
    after the first set of orbs we go in one by one im number 10 on the list. i also do have the 4 piece for destro.
    Last edited by jupiteran; 2014-04-17 at 02:14 PM.

  20. #420
    Honestly looking at your raid's damage on them your doing fine, infact pretty middle of the pack.
    If your guild is having problems on them not dying fast enough, thats your entire raid, and not just you

    Most of the time they don't live for more than 6-7 gcd's

    so if they're dying like that, then you wont have a problem.

    For minor tips as affliction, Run dots on boss, full single target rotation, and just SS dots to adds.
    anything more than that, if they're up for longer than a UA duration, i'd be having words with your guild members
    Who are getting cleansed, and tunneling boss.
    even after cleansing, Adds > Boss. Aff cleansed dots on boss onto adds, is more than enough. If not, and somehow your other raiders aren't able to to increase they're damage, then Perhaps your guild should be trying other bosses before nuroshen.
    (Oh and you beating atleast 1 of the other warlocks on those adds, consistently who have 5-6ilevels on you

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