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    Spirit Champion. RP question.

    Ok, so I found out about an rp class called a spirit champion. To show better details here:

    http://www.wowwiki.com/Spirit_champion

    A spirit champion is a mighty warrior who embraces the spirits, to assist him in his battles. He strengthens his spiritual connection until he can feel the spirits flowing within his body and thoughts, strengthening his arms and quickening his mind. Whispered fragments impart insight into battle as ancestors speak of ways to overcome all foes. The spirit champion ceases to fight for his own reasons; he battles to honor the spirits and to further their wishes. Often these wishes coincide with his own, but occasionally the spirit champion embarks on a path for reasons that are unclear to him. He does so faithfully, trusting in the spirits to point him in the right direction.
    The spirit champion is a deadly melee combatant. His spiritual nature strengthens his mind in ways that most warriors ignore. Insight grants him speed and accuracy, and he can call upon native spirits to lend him aid. He is a contemplative warrior, likely to meditate through the dawn before silently lifting his sword or totem and walking calmly into battle.

    Spirit champions rely on the spirits to protect them, through insight and wisdom as well as direct intervention. To wear heavy armor is to insult them. They focus on the mind, and with their focus they can transcend physical limitations. The spirits protect the spirit champion, providing him with instinctual insights to avoid blows. He swings his weapon up and steps to the side, not really knowing why, and an instant later he parries a blow from an unseen source. Ancestral spirits whisper in the spirit champion’s mind. Since the spirit champion is a being of combat, many of these ancestors are mighty warriors, perhaps spirit champions in their day. They speak of maneuvers and tactics, of feints and cleaving blows, and their whispers bypass the normal means of understanding and bleed into the spirit champion’s subconscious mind.

    Spirit champions meditate, especially before battle. They prefer quiet places of natural beauty, such as mountaintops and forest glades, but they can meditate anywhere as long as they are undisturbed. They use this time to renew their bonds with the spirits and focus themselves on the tasks that lie ahead. The spirit champion’s mind is at peace and is difficult to disturb. A skilled spirit champion can request certain spirits to enter his weapon and lend their fury to his strikes. The experienced spirit champions can contact the spirits and ask a question of them. The spirits usually answer, but often do so in cryptic ways meant to improve the spirit champion or reveal to him something about himself.

    A highly skilled spirit champion has such an understanding of the spirits, and has established such a strong relationship with them, that he has both the ability and the permission to join them to a small degree. The spirit champion can turn himself and everything he carries incorporeal. He remains incorporeal until he chooses to end this effect or a amount of time that depends on the spirit champions skill.[1]
    Spirit champions in the world
    Since the orcs' rediscovery of their spiritual heritage, their mindsets have changed. Shaman appear and commune with spirits and with their ancestors. The orcs' relationship with the tauren further broadens and strengthens their new faith, and with it comes new psychology. No longer are orcs bloodthirsty crazies; they are an ancient and noble people, bound by honor and ties to their allies. This societal revolution sweeps up all orcs in its flow. Some orcs combine this new understanding with their warlike natures and become spirit champions.
    Many tauren also take up the mantle of the spirit champion. Indeed, the tauren legacy of spirit champions extends back millennia. It was they who helped the orcs discover this path. Most tauren spirit champions call themselves followers of the totem. Orcs and tauren sometimes teach the secrets of the spirit champions to their allies, but the class is rare among other races. A few half-orcs, half-ogres, and jungle trolls become spirit champions. Forsaken and forest trolls favor their own dark faiths and care not for the spirits. Spirit champions in the Alliance are unknown. Most spirit champions are orcs or tauren. All current spirit champions are members of the Horde. The Alliance has different values, and even spirit champions who might break with the Horde do not defect to the Alliance.[2]
    Ok, so it seems like a cool rp class to play as, and given the inclusion of monks now in wow, it seems like a good choice to play as in order to play this class.

    However, I'm just curious, would it be fissible to have an alliance character to play as a spirit warrior, given they seem to be a horde based rp class?

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    From the last few lines in the second part you posted:

    Spirit champions in the Alliance are unknown. Most spirit champions are orcs or tauren. All current spirit champions are members of the Horde. The Alliance has different values, and even spirit champions who might break with the Horde do not defect to the Alliance.[2]
    I don't think so. Which is a shame, seems like a pretty awesome concept. :|

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    Dwarf is your basicly only choice, and it's more off..shaman that is a spirit champion than monk

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    Mmm, seems like a weak idea for a class that doesn't fit into the Warcraft universe very well. There's lots of stuff in the RPG that doesn't belong in WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Mmm, seems like a weak idea for a class that doesn't fit into the Warcraft universe very well. There's lots of stuff in the RPG that doesn't belong in WoW.
    I can't even begin to comprehend the wrongness of this statement.....

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    Dwarf is your basicly only choice, and it's more off..shaman that is a spirit champion than monk
    And for this maybe. Alliance Spirit Champions would be slightly hard to explain. Ancestor worship, while not completely, is different between the races. Dwarfs are the only Alliance race that currently practices this and only very, very recently. So you could have something along the lines of a dwarf warrior trying to discover this ability but only just barely. He would be more warrior than spirit champion.

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    Trassk, buddy, come on! Using wowwiki? Man... Wowpedia's how you do it!

    But yeah, the source you quoted says it's basically Horde only.

    I don't think the Dwarves have a large social focus on ancestor worship, but that'd be your only option... but I'd say it's a stretch.

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    Might be a Necropost, but I'd just like to say that Spirit Champion is an RPG class related to Ancestral Worship as well as Shamanism. Any race related to worshipping its ancestors and spirits can become a Spirit Champion.

    If your Dwarf is a Wildhammer, he would have little difficulty to becoming a Spirit Champion. Wildhammers worship their ancestors and have Shamanistic knowledge (even Druidic to a minor degree).
    If your Dwarf is a Bronzebeard, he would be able to but it would take a lot longer due to the only recent addition of Shamanism to the Bronzebeard Dwarves.

    Draenei also worship their ancestors (as well as the Light of the Naaru), so they too could make Spirit Champions.

    Those would be your best choice for the Alliance, really. As for the Horde, yeah...Orcs and Tauren. That's about it. Trolls have little to do with their ancestors and more the Loa. Goblins? HAH, they care for their ancestors alright...if caring for their wealth counts.

    Pandaren...yes and no. As Lorewalker Cho says, they do not worship their ancestors, but revere their memory and the wisdom they passed on. Pandaren -CAN- make Spirit Champions, but they would be incredibly rare.

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    The only source we got on Spirit Champions is the RPG class, as far as I know. And while it has been said, that this game is not Part of the Canon, we still have to take it into account if we want the class to exist.

    This source indicates that Orcs and Tauren are the main Spirit Champions of the Horde, but also that some Mok'nathal and Jungle Trolls are. It also claims there are no Spirit Champions known to the alliance.
    But as you said, the Alliance has believers in Animism, the Wildhammer. Also, all dwarfs practice some kind of ancestral worship, which they also need.

    The only question we have to ask, do they realize that ancestor worship can give them these skills? If so, how did they discover it, or where does this knowledge come from? The Tauren have a Millenia old ancestral Worship

    The Horde races are trained by the Tauren, from whom the class originated, so their understanding of the class comes from somewhere. We don't have that for the alliance at all.

    Under these circumstances I would not claim the dwarfs would have little difficulty to learn being a spirit champion.
    Last edited by Khorianas; 2013-04-05 at 07:14 AM.

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