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    5.2 Revenge and Shield Slam

    "The base damage of Shield Slam and Revenge has been increased by 150%, but these abilities now scale approximately 10% less efficiently with attack power." Quote from PTR Patch Notes.

    "I dont understand, Why do you keep making nerfs that effect prot warriors, we are the lowest DPS tanks by over 10k in parses"

    Ghostcrawler: Which specifically? Execute? Won't that be like a 2% need for Prot?

    "Exec, SS and Revenge. The change with SS/Rev are good for offtanking though, but we still dps less than other tank classes."

    Ghostcrawler: SS / Revenge should help with MT'ing too. Why do you think DPS is still low?

    GC blog quotes or something.

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    So, will this infact be a DPS increase even with normal tanking vengeance? Im bad at math, so does anyone have the math how this change will effect us, and how much? And the difference with 0 vengeance and say 75k vengeance?

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    http://www.wowdb.com/spells/23922-shield-slam vs http://ptr.wowdb.com/spells/23922-sh...-by-sort=-type

    Easy numbers: base 20k AP, 75k Veng.

    4677+(1.32*20000) = 31,067
    11216+(1.2*20000) = 35,216 (13.355% difference)

    4677+(1.32*95000) = 130,077
    11216+(1.2*95000) = 125,216 (.0373% difference)

    Revenge:

    3739+(.7*20000) = 17,739
    9348+(.64*20000) = 22,148 (24.86% difference)

    3739+(.7*95000) = 70,239
    9348+(.64*95000) = 70,148 (.00129% difference)



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    Ah lol it was that simple calculations GC lied to us! Thats a nerf to damage with the Execute nerf. Or basically a +-0.
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    Its frankly utterly disgusting that he would dare even suggest that they were buffing warrior damage, given that atleast most bosses on 10 man normal will give around 70k vengeance
    It would genuinely surprise me if blizzard had an internal testing team capable of clearing 25m HC

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    Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenfold View Post
    Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays.
    What an insightful and meaningful comment, I just think that the actual developers / Designers of the game should at least have a little bit of integrity because the warrior 'buffs' they have implemented are so specific to 5 mans you might just as well have released a pair of Formula 1 tyres that grip 50% better when driving in honey but 10% less on tarmac
    Last edited by eddytheone; 2013-03-03 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddytheone View Post
    It would genuinely surprise me if blizzard had an internal testing team capable of clearing 25m HC
    That was a good one.

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    My warrior (even though he isn't great geared ) is the only tank I wish to play because to me they are the ONLY class which makes me feel like a tank should. I have my sword, I have my stance and the spells suit it. But the damage is what I'd describe as.... Humiliating. Especially the AoE. I find it near enough ridiculous trying to compete in AoE damage with any other tanks. DK's have Blood Boil, Druid's have thrash, Monks have spinning crane kick and Pallies even have Hammer of the Righteous and Concentration. We have Thunder Clap and the majority use Shockwave. These do no were enough DPS in comparison due to the CD's they have and they're not even a decent AoE because of there very limited range.

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    It seems so unprofessional that he (Ghostcrawler) can't even do the easy numbers like Promdate in his post, and then realise that the changes are wasted, and that warriors will remain the weakest tanking class DPS-wise.

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