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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Why did Blizzard make the Orcs idiotic, bloodthirsty savages? And why allow them to be Mages knowing this in Warcraft lore?
    Being savage and being dumb aren't the same. The Orcs are simply aggressive by nature. For example, people might say that Saurfang Jr was an idiot for charging at the Lich King like that. But people fail to realize that in most cases Orcs win with that tactic, heck if Saurfang Jr had his fathers axe then he would've killed the Lich King on the spot.

    And what about Gul'dan and Ner'zhul, were they idiotic savages as well? They were masterminds.
    Durotan, Orgrim Doomhammer and Thrall are quite smart as well.

    I think you are horribly biased. Not every Orc is a peon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seta-san View Post
    i'm assuming your not counting races like the murlocs? even so of the playable races, trolls are the dumbest. Has no one noticed that they are the only race without any sort of city? Everything they have resembling a city is a ruin or simply huts. On top of their lack of any sort of civilization.. every chance they get they try to summon some unspeakable evil believing they can control it.. but it always ends up controlling them.
    Trolls right now look like the smartest Horde race. They're the only one not drinking Garrosh's Sha Kool-Aid.
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    Undeads are dumber than orcs for sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    There are few exceptions, i acknowledge that, but generally the Orc population consists of "zug zug," "quit poking me!" and "waaaaaat?!"

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    Have you ever done a /silly with an orc shaman? Yep the same as their warriors, warlocks, rogues...
    What do funny emotes have anything to do with their intelligence? Other races portray exactly the same in this sense.

    The most badass and 'intelligent' human mage can be made to look like a massive moron with their /silly & /flirt commands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhidamo View Post
    Trolls right now look like the smartest Horde race. They're the only one not drinking Garrosh's Sha Kool-Aid.
    except when compared to the whole alliance.. and even the tauren

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhidamo View Post
    Trolls right now look like the smartest Horde race. They're the only one not drinking Garrosh's Sha Kool-Aid.
    The only people drinking the sha kool-aid are some of the orcs, the rest either don't know about his scheme or pretty much oppose it... in secrecy of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    and taught him to be intelligent.
    Are you serious?
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    While those of us who have ever played a video game before, stop and think "Gas coming from the walls. probably don't wanna touch that"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    The only people drinking the sha kool-aid are some of the orcs, the rest either don't know about his scheme or pretty much oppose it... in secrecy of course.
    I'm a bit skeptical of BElf unity on this subject. The council seems to support the rebellion, but Sunreaver seems to be all for Garrosh.

    Undead are getting uppity as Garrosh increasingly is letting them do whatever they want (they are using the plague in small amounts on Pandaria).

    Goblins will work for whoever pays them most.

    Tauren are just kind of keeping to themselves.
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    Human females do the worst macarena I've ever seen.

    And Draenei females like to eat Gnomes - but who doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhidamo View Post
    I'm a bit skeptical of BElf unity on this subject. The council seems to support the rebellion, but Sunreaver seems to be all for Garrosh.
    What? Sunreaver has always been against Garrosh.

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    the same reason gnomes, gobbys and belfs are warriors... to give more variety to the player. I think if all race/class combos were strictly lore and logic driven there wouldnt be much to choose from.

    side note more high ranking orcs arent dumb look at general/ captain lvl npcs

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokhidamo View Post
    I'm a bit skeptical of BElf unity on this subject. The council seems to support the rebellion, but Sunreaver seems to be all for Garrosh.

    Undead are getting uppity as Garrosh increasingly is letting them do whatever they want (they are using the plague in small amounts on Pandaria).

    Goblins will work for whoever pays them most.

    Tauren are just kind of keeping to themselves.
    You're probably right about undead/goblins, but I think the Sunreavers are just studying the sha magic because honestly, who wants to oppose Garrosh at the moment? He ordered them to do it, and they don't won't to piss him off for the time being. Taurens haven't had much spotlight, but Dezco and Cairne, the only major tauren figures of this expac, really aren't big fans of Garrosh.

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    It's just to cruel to post threads like these without a chance for WoW General's favorite Thrall Avenger to be able to retort in an equally trollish effort.

    But yeah, Orcs are kind of dumb. Yeah, there are smart standout Orcs like Ner'Zhul, Gul'Dan etc... but the average orc just wants to smash what's in front of it, and most of the time they win that way. In fact, the only dumber races are newly-raised Forsaken (kind of a joke in that quest giver questline, but hilariously dumb nonetheless)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Casual View Post
    belfs are warriors...
    ? There were plenty of examples of blood elf warriors before they were made playable. Their abomination of an ingame model doesn't show it, but they are strong and agile warriors when they want to be. Spellbreakers are great examples of this. And they can be pallies, which are basically holy warriors, so why not a non holy warriors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    You're probably right about undead/goblins, but I think the Sunreavers are just studying the sha magic because honestly, who wants to oppose Garrosh at the moment? He ordered them to do it, and they don't won't to piss him off for the time being. Taurens haven't had much spotlight, but Dezco and Cairne, the only major tauren figures of this expac, really aren't big fans of Garrosh.
    Well there's also the matter of who knew what when regarding the Theramore attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    ? There were plenty of examples of blood elf warriors before they were made playable. Their abomination of an ingame model doesn't show it, but they are strong and agile warriors when they want to be. Spellbreakers are great examples of this. And if they could be pallies, which are basically holy warriors, so why not a non holy warriors?
    They were Warriors at one point during early BC testing. Then it as removed to preserve the "no race can have more than 8 classes" rule at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Yes peasants were less educated farm people that were servants to the alliance kingdom, peons were their grunt labor force.

    But you have to acknowledge that their Orc grunts and other forces were not the sharpest tools in the shed. It has been painted by Blizzard, and fleshed out in WoW.
    I wouldn't say a footman is, either. You're going by the lowest-level of the group and saying "hey, this guy is what everyone is". They're not.

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    Yes and the Gnomes, being the most intelligent race, STILL haven't reclaimed their capital city of Gnomeregan from Troggs and Leper Gnomes.

    I'm sorry, what were you trying to point out about Orcs being stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Stemming from the Warcraft 2 and 3 days, Blizzard has always portrayed the Orc race as complete and utter morons. Case in point, their Orc warriors and peons, and the rabble the World of Warcraft town npcs and gaurds spout.

    It is almost absurd to believe that the Orcs could be Mages, considering the Mage class uses intelligence and whit to destroy their foes. Why were they added as a playable class for the Orcs? Does not make sense.

    Orcs may be strong, as to strength and agility, but they sure are dumb. There are a few exceptions, but you may notice that these exceptions almost always involve humans somewhere. For example, Thrall was raised by humans, and therefore they taught him good principles, and taught him to be intelligent.

    Why did Blizzard make the Orcs idiotic, bloodthirsty savages? And why allow them to be Mages knowing this in Warcraft lore?
    what about Bud? what about all the peasants from warcraft 1-3? each race has their morons, the only reason the orcs seem "stupid" is because of their more barbaric nature. the "might is right" attitude tends to lead people to think they are all ignorant brutes but again every faction has them.

    the real problem with the orcs is that once they are given orders or are introduced into a way of thinking/believing they tend to follow them somewhat blindly and sometimes recklessly. one could argue the gnomes, whom are supposed to be some of the more intelligent beings, are fairly ignorant because really who floods their city with toxic radiation in hopes to get rid of the troggs? in all their wisdom did they not see what damage it would do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokilar View Post
    one could argue the gnomes, whom are supposed to be some of the more intelligent beings, are fairly ignorant because really who floods their city with toxic radiation in hopes to get rid of the troggs? in all their wisdom did they not see what damage it would do?
    By that logic, Orks of Warhammer 40k universe would be inteligent. Gnomes are stupid as hell, they just have engineering engraved in their DNA in form of instincts.

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