Obama sequester demagoguery

[Rukentuts]

Wow, I had no idea there were people that still believe the Iraq war was a good idea. You'd have to be trying to get everything wrong to believe this.

Because we needed to turn Iraq into an unstable breeding ground for terrorists, apparently.

[Grizzly Willy]

do you want me to make a list of every time some one is critical of Obama Bush is brought up? just in this thread alone Bushs name was used 187 times

There isn't a statute of limitations in regards to discussing the actions of former presidents.

[Vyxn]

There isn't a statute of limitations in regards to discussing the actions of former presidents.

of coarse not what else would be used to divert attention away from the current presidents failures

[stumpy]

of coarse not what else would be used to divert attention away from the current presidents failures

Yet earlier in this thread you said that what happened under Reagan could be blamed on Carter.



Oh right, that wasn't you, that was some commenter on Yahoo Answers.

[Slybak]

the lefts default mode bring up Bush. the statute of limitations
of Blame Bush ended 2 years ago

So where do the mouth-breathing idiots on the right continue to place the blame for everything from the failures of U.S. intelligence agencies before 9/11 to the financial crisis of 2008/2009?

Two words: Jimmy. Carter.

But you're right in a way... it's not entirely Bush's fault.

Much of the blame should be placed on the shoulders of the people who voted for him.

[Felya]

of coarse not what else would be used to divert attention away from the current presidents failures

How about Reagan? How long are Republicans going to push failed ideology and claim it's Reagan's way?

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Bush was the last president, who's tax cuts just became permanent. There is a reason why the man who started two wars during his administration is being brought up, while the wars are still active. Now explain to me how republicans can still ride Reagan from 30 years ago, while whining about a comparison to the last president?

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So where do the mouth-breathing idiots on the right continue to place the blame for everything from the failures of U.S. intelligence agencies before 9/11 to the financial crisis of 2008/2009?

I think a great example is what Bush sr coined as Voodoo economics. We have republicans pushing the idea of trickle down theory, where the only merit was being Reagan's plan. If you remove Reagan from trickle down theory, all you are left with is an economic system that doubled the debt, widened the wealth gap and Gordon Gekko being the model or epitome of success.

[Grizzly Willy]

of coarse not what else would be used to divert attention away from the current presidents failures

I'm just fine with talking about Obama's horrible qualities. That doesn't mean that Bush didn't make any mistakes, or that we can't talk about said mistakes in relation to our current situation.

[Felya]

I'm just fine with talking about Obama's horrible qualities. That doesn't mean that Bush didn't make any mistakes, or that we can't talk about said mistakes in relation to our current situation.

I think if people check the previous page, they will be surprised by who and in what context, Bush was brought up. It was in response to people calling Vyxn out for not being specific about Obama lying. He went off on this don't blame Bush tangent, when someone said they have not heard Obama directly lie. While using 'Iran has WMDs' as an example. Something, that Iran openly wants now, not only at the time of Bush. It was Vyxn, who used it to divert from having to come up with direct lies of Obama.

It's like the race card. At this point, it's most likely that the race card would be used to disparage those who are accused of using it. You are more likely to see people complain that Obama got voted in for playing the race card, than people using Obama's race as any justification.

[Urti]

I'm just fine with talking about Obama's horrible qualities. That doesn't mean that Bush didn't make any mistakes, or that we can't talk about said mistakes in relation to our current situation.

Here here. No president exists in a vacuum. Obama has screwed up, hell, every president could have done far better than they did in retrospect. The fact remains that Bush II created far more problems than he ever solved, and those problems are gonna haunt not just Obama, but the whole country for possibly decades. While any given president can be chipped away at after the fact, Bush II was practically toxic.

[Jaxi]

SS and Medicare are fine, we just need to wait out the baby boomers.

"Wait it out, maybe it will get better" is not a plan. Keep in mind that life expectancy has gone up, and population growth has slowed.

[Vyxn]

Looks like the big apocalypse doom and groom narrative that Obama has threatened the American people with is nothing but fail

According to the latest ABC news poll 61-33 percent supports the sequester except cuts to the military http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=18664425

[Rukentuts]

"Wait it out, maybe it will get better" is not a plan. Keep in mind that life expectancy has gone up, and population growth has slowed.

There's also rampant sectarian violence and a breeding ground for terrorists.

[Urti]

Looks like the big apocalypse doom and groom narrative that Obama has threatened the American people with is nothing but fail

According to the latest ABC news poll 61-33 percent supports the sequester except cuts to the military http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=18664425

Dude, none of the cuts have even had time to take effect yet. What were you expecting to happen? The sequester hit at midnight and by 6 am we would be in Mad Max mode? The economy is like steering a battleship, changes take time to manifest. Also, polls of normal shlubs < subject matter expert testimony any day of the week.

[chadwix]

Wow, I had no idea there were people that still believe the Iraq war was a good idea. You'd have to be trying to get everything wrong to believe this.

Some people are unable to see the big picture i guess.

Starting your statement with, "Wow i had no idea" then fail horribly at making a point on what you actually disagree'd with in my statement? LMAO

what shit would come down anyway?

Their nuclear program? Actually wiping isreal off the face of the map like they say? Not sure if your familiar with iran or not.

[Spectral]

Some people are unable to see the big picture i guess.

Starting your statement with, "Wow i had no idea" then fail horribly at making a point on what you actually disagree'd with in my statement? LMAO

No, really, I had no idea there were people so pathologically incapable of changing their mind about things that they still insist the Iraq War was a good idea. I thought even you'd have gotten this one right.

You've have to have made an actual point for me to address it with something other than snark.

[DieFichte]

Their nuclear program? Actually wiping isreal off the face of the map like they say? Not sure if your familiar with iran or not.

Sounds like hell of a strategy for them. Let's blow Israel to pieces, the world would totally sanction, attack and invade our own country, so we probably loose everything, but that's the sacrifice we make to destroy Israel. Yes I'm familiar with Iran, but I guess I should trust American judgement when it comes to nukes, as you are without a doubt the experts on that.

And the threat on destroying Israel, well it came from the Iranian government, which has so much power, I nearly can take it serious.

[Vyxn]

Dude, none of the cuts have even had time to take effect yet. What were you expecting to happen? The sequester hit at midnight and by 6 am we would be in Mad Max mode? The economy is like steering a battleship, changes take time to manifest. Also, polls of normal shlubs < subject matter expert testimony any day of the week.

I said the Narrative was fail
Obama spent the last two weeks going around making speeches of doom and gloom if the sequester went through, but according to the ABC poll the public just blew him off didn't believe a word he said, or if they did believe him they didn't care they rather have the cuts other then the cuts to the military

[Dasffion]

I said the Narrative was fail
Obama spent the last two weeks going around making speeches of doom and gloom if the sequester went through, but according to the ABC poll the public just blew him off didn't believe a word he said, or if they did believe him they didn't care they rather have the cuts other then the cuts to the military

What on earth are you talking about? Just because the ABC poll says that a 61% support cuts doesn't mean there won't be "doom and gloom" from the sequester. The American people as a whole aren't exactly known for being well informed (this isn't nation bashing, I'm American).

[Saerise]

I say we just kick them all the hell out. You can't trust Democrats or Republicans. They do whatever the hell they want to with our money because it isn't theirs that they're spending.

[Felya]

I say we just kick them all the hell out. You can't trust Democrats or Republicans. They do whatever the hell they want to with our money because it isn't theirs that they're spending.

American people need to simply figure out how to be as influential in government, as American people we call corporations.

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What on earth are you talking about? Just because the ABC poll says that a 61% support cuts doesn't mean there won't be "doom and gloom" from the sequester. The American people as a whole aren't exactly known for being well informed (this isn't nation bashing, I'm American).

You don't have to even claim they are uninformed, when his opposition in congress was saying the same thing as Obama. Yet, it was the Mitch McConnell lead republicans in the senate who's proposed solution wasn't actually any cuts, but to give Obama the full responsibility for cuts. Well, until he used a filibuster to kill his own solution. I think it lasted for a total of 45 minutes.