Ok there is a bunch of confusion in this thread and how some of you play a Ret completely baffles me. I'm going to make this short and sweet and hope that people realize and research a little before randomly posting nonsense.
1. Ret has 1 count them 1 attack on the spell hit table that is exorcism.
2. Judgement while being a spell falls under all the melee attack rules and has for a very long time.
3. Hammer of Wrath also a spell that uses the melee attack rules also has for a long time.
4. Everything we do is affected by SoL accept Exorcism & Censure
Sincerely, Incarnate Ret Paladins. & Neldarie
^ + censure (can add last tier stuff too but meh I guess that's too minor Hammer/ExecS/Prism)
And ye Judgement used to follow the double (spell/melee) attack mechanic for a VERY long time. Those farming AQ40 for mog or other reasons may remember that from Twin Emperors
oh Requital why didn't you include me, I feel so cold and alone, but I agree with his statement completely.
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Hammer of Wrath is a ranged attack, thus why the MoP change to the ranged attack table made it able to be dodged. It can be silenced because haha consistency what is that?
In terms of armor mitigation and damage done : magical
In terms of stats/scaling/hit+exp-cap/GCD : they are melee
Those are tricky, no one should stand : it's a spell! NO it's melee.. But better understand the whole lot of inconsistencies and make do with it. Which is what Requital tried to do.
Last edited by metasaigneur; 2013-03-01 at 05:21 PM.
Basically, the combat table determines if an attack is melee, ranged, or spell, and the spell school determines what type of damage the attack deals (physical is treated as a spell school by the game mechanics). By combat table, Judgment is a melee attack and Hammer of Wrath is a ranged attack. By spell school, both are holy, which means they deal holy damage.
Silences are determined on a by-spell basis, though, so that can make it trickier to determine what an ability is. Normally melee and ranged attacks can't be silenced, but some, like Hammer of Wrath and Thunder Clap, can be.
- Hammer of Wrath & Judgment are both Ranged melee attacks!
- Hammer of Wrath can Miss or be Dodged but cannot be Parried!
- Seal of Light doesn't effect Censure & Exorcism
- The end
i won't lie, i really don't see a point to this argument, you're covered if you cap Exp and Hit regardless, although this is really educational for the people that were unaware I don't really see where this is going.
Hammer of Wrath might be a spell :/ I doesnt go through cloak of shadow nor can it be cast while silenced.
well yes HoW can be silenced while judgement is a range melee attack , so probably a spell !
Wait !!!! what ?????
I leave this thread more confused than when I entered it....