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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueobelisk View Post
    Idk. I'll be dead, just leave me alone. It's already embarrassing enough that I died.
    Everyone dies. Why in the world would that be embarrassing?
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    I don't know. I'll be dead, just leave me alone.
    Would you agree that "I don't know, it's embarrassing" is a bad reason not to save someone's life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueobelisk View Post
    Idk. I'll be dead, just leave me alone. It's already embarrassing enough that I died.
    And you'll have to be naked too when the coroner cuts you up! I think I have an idea on a new wish corruption forming in my head right now...
    9 out of 10 people agree that in a room full of 10 people one person will always disagree with the other 9.

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    shouldn't have to opt out of something just to protect your body from people going all jack the ripper on it when you die

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertex705 View Post
    shouldn't have to opt out of something just to protect your body from people going all jack the ripper on it when you die
    Why not? It's pretty clear that society benefits a lot by having donors, and I think most people would prefer to be a donor, but many don't know how to sign up. Make the default what's best for society and let the people who have an objection to that opt out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjarnespz View Post
    oh should have mentioned.im from Norway.


    question. if you have "donor" on your licence,can your family "stop" it?

    Feks. you die. have a donor card.at the hospital your mom "or the one you listed as a emergency"says NO
    then waht?

    question 2
    can you be a donor and chose some of your body parts to be "of limit" ?
    If you're over 18 and chose to be an organ donor, then no, your mom probably couldn't stop it. Although im sure someone could slow down the process a bunch, it was the decision of the donor

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertex705 View Post
    shouldn't have to opt out of something just to protect your body from people going all jack the ripper on it when you die
    There is not a single good, logical reason as to why someone would need their organs after they are dead, especially if someone's life could be saved by taking your kidney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Why not? It's pretty clear that society benefits a lot by having donors, and I think most people would prefer to be a donor, but many don't know how to sign up. Make the default what's best for society and let the people who have an objection to that opt out.
    Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds? Having the government decide what is or is not good for society has NEVER turned out well, do you really want some idiots in DC making decisions that RIGHTFULLY belongs to the individual?
    If you can't make fun of something, its probably not worth taking seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjarnespz View Post
    oh should have mentioned.im from Norway.
    If you're looking for info about organ donation in Norway, try here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavafoxx View Post
    Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds? Having the government decide what is or is not good for society has NEVER turned out well, do you really want some idiots in DC making decisions that RIGHTFULLY belongs to the individual?
    The government is always making decisions on what's best for society. That's what governments do, and I'm glad they do it. And it turns out well for society all the freaking time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lavafoxx View Post
    Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds? Having the government decide what is or is not good for society has NEVER turned out well, do you really want some idiots in DC making decisions that RIGHTFULLY belongs to the individual?
    Did you miss the "let the people who have an objection to that opt out." part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Did you miss the "let the people who have an objection to that opt out." part?
    with an amazing resource as the internet at their disposal there is NO reason for anybody who wants to become a donor to be unable to find info about it.

    this is just another "we want to change things just for no good reason."
    If you can't make fun of something, its probably not worth taking seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavafoxx View Post
    Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds? Having the government decide what is or is not good for society has NEVER turned out well, do you really want some idiots in DC making decisions that RIGHTFULLY belongs to the individual?
    "Guys, guys, we messed up, that program, you know, the one where we take the still useable organs of dead people and give them to sick people to make them better? Yeah. Stop it. Sorry."

    Programs and decisions are good or bad based on the veracity of the ideas and consequences actually involved, not whether a government, an individual, or corporation makes them.

    Governments are made up of individuals, voted for by individuals(obviously this is a functioning-democracy caveat).

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    i could never be a doner, i just get such a sick feeling about internal whatever... even if they do it when im already gone, i still can't stomach the idea. i'll keep whatever is inside me forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavafoxx View Post
    with an amazing resource as the internet at their disposal there is NO reason for anybody who wants to become a donor to be unable to find info about it.

    this is just another "we want to change things just for no good reason."
    Actually, it's for a very good reason. It would result in more registered donors, which could result in more saved lives.
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    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
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    I'm a donor. They can have whatever pieces they want. Take it all, I won't need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    Actually, it's for a very good reason. It would result in more registered donors, which could result in more saved lives.
    and its a better idea to leave things as is. personal liberties (yes, even when dead) > society
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    Having the government decide what is or is not good for society...
    At least in Brazil, the government makes the laws.

    personal liberties (yes, even when dead) > society
    Why is the dead body liberties more important than the society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavafoxx View Post
    and its a better idea to leave things as is. personal liberties (yes, even when dead) > society
    No one is abridging personal liberties. The default is changing in this scenario, but people who don't want to be involved don't have to be.

    Even if it did, I don't value the personal liberties of the dead over the continuing survival of the living. Still, I respect that some do, which is why there would be an option to opt out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    No one is abridging personal liberties. The default is changing in this scenario, but people who don't want to be involved don't have to be.

    Even if it did, I don't value the personal liberties of the dead over the continuing survival of the living. Still, I respect that some do, which is why there would be an option to opt out.
    or we could just keep things as they are (which is pretty much whats happening right now)
    If you can't make fun of something, its probably not worth taking seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavafoxx View Post
    or we could just keep things as they are (which is pretty much whats happening right now)
    But why, when such a simple change would end up saving lives? There's so much to gain and nothing to lose.
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    Or a yawing hole in a battered head
    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
    And there they lay I damn me eyes
    All lookouts clapped on Paradise
    All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

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