Wildlife Mafia: Maasai Mara Style

[Rollo]

Meh, better than nothing. Especially since VTs are supposed to try and pull NKs their way. I know I'd feel good knowing I might have a chance to live even when doing my job

I felt horrible that I survived to the end of the game thinking I was never targeted. Glad to see I was targeted N1 and N4 (i believe).

---------- Post added 2013-03-23 at 04:59 PM ----------

I'm not poking fun, can you clarify what you mean?

He had a nasal procedure/surgery done and has been on pain meds most of the game, in and out of lucidity I believe. Who knows how the meds actually affected him or their strength. I know for myself, anything less than morphine does nothing for me.

[Krayzy]

I felt horrible that I survived to the end of the game thinking I was never targeted. Glad to see I was targeted N1 and N4 (i believe).

It's funny. Had Greeney not targeted Foxxi on night 1 then Foxxi would have used up your kill and the night would have ended the same (plus whatever Greeney would have done instead). It would have also made it so Nemi would have killed you instead of being killed by you.

[Rollo]

I guess I should've said this was more for everyone else than myself ... I had a good guess as to what happened (a few others did as well - bandages around me plus dyra was a vet). However, there were others, especially Fused and Rollo, who seemed like they didn't want to believe a word I said or how it was so suspicious that I survived the lynch. I did not know about this bonus role of hers myself til I read this a few minutes ago.

To be honest Falbacca, I was just thoroughly confused with what happened. It wasn't that I was suspicious of you from your playstyle, I was just suspicious of what happened. I understood that Dyra could have saved you (and did), but we had no confirmation of the fact (aside from the RP bandages), and I just thought it could have been a special SK ability. I was trying to not pigeon hole myself into thinking X person was this and only this, but trying to rationalize any and every situation.

---------- Post added 2013-03-23 at 05:02 PM ----------

I already..proclaimed. I'm not feeling well, I'm about to sign off. I don't want say something I might regret. There's constructive feedback. (Which I will listen too. If you messaged me in PM with you're concerns) then they're feedback in a thread. You were with the Hyena team for less then one night before you died.

Right away you claimed the person who targeted you Sammiry was doing a horrible job because she turned you into a Mafia member. I'll take you're advice with a grain of salt.I happened to think she did a great job since she recruited someone new. Again as I said. I don't feel well right now. Like I'm on meds, but that's not how it was.

I would sincerely appreciate those not giving the first time just a hard time claiming they played "horrible, horrible, horrible" if you want new players to continue to sign up in other games. But likely with me you might not, so it evens out. If you have feedback by all means PM to me, what I could do better etc, but saying you played badly isn't constructive.

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me. I dont mind helping or supporting new players. It may be the pain meds or after effects of the surgery, but you did seem a little out of sorts during the game.

---------- Post added 2013-03-23 at 05:03 PM ----------

It's because you take the game too seriously (I know this seems like an ironic thing for me to say). You seem to be worried about making enemies and pissing people off with everything you do. I certainly don't feel that way and pretty much none of the other veterans do, either.

You should've seen the game I was cop and invented an investigation I never made, I think it was Krayzy, maybe, that I ended up getting lynched. Who cares if he was town and I ended up losing the game for the town? It was fun.

I've invented actions a few times and tried fibbing about my role this game. I wasn't far off from my initial claim of requiring 3 night actions to kill me, as the third would have killed me this game =P

It's brilliant when those moves work, and it sucks when they don't...but thats the gamble of such claims. People may make fun or mock you about it, but leave it at that and boom, people move on.

I don't. I was laughing about how Lysah was pushing everyone's buttons yesterday. If people would have just taken a step back they would have realized she was doing it to throw people off their game.

People kept commenting about how Lysah was making things personal but never put two and two together.

I knew she was doing this, which is why I initially said I wouldn't change my vote. Can't remember if I actually made mention of this somewhere else in the thread, but yesterday's drive completely messed up my want to push on Lysah further.

---------- Post added 2013-03-23 at 05:07 PM ----------

It's funny. Had Greeney not targeted Foxxi on night 1 then Foxxi would have used up your kill and the night would have ended the same (plus whatever Greeney would have done instead). It would have also made it so Nemi would have killed you instead of being killed by you.

It's always great when a game could have a completely different outcome from an action on N1.

[Blood fox]

I found it very funny by the way that you could convince people not to vote for you, even though you told them about your role, you only changed the "scum/SK" to "survivor", and they still didn't lynch you. Even though your role is worse for the town than a Vigilante. (Which tbh can be pretty bad for the town)

hardly, I think everyone knew lysah was scum. we just thought there was another scum. Sometimes itsd ok to leave a known scum alive, I rather hunt for new scum most times.


Arlee-Most bloody thirsty giraffe ever...

damn right.

[Everything Nice]

He had a nasal procedure/surgery done and has been on pain meds most of the game, in and out of lucidity I believe. Who knows how the meds actually affected him or their strength. I know for myself, anything less than morphine does nothing for me.

I meant the sentence, I couldn't read it

---------- Post added 2013-03-24 at 01:23 AM ----------

Arlee-Most bloody thirsty giraffe ever...

[Blood fox]

most peoples QT are more boring than lysah. too obvious scum was obvious!

[listo95]

I tried to keep a journal, but lost the feeling of how to play as my character.

[Lysah]

I just wanted to write down any suspicions I had, mostly, so that I could go back and prove I called people out early on. I wrote down FusedMass as scum on day 2 =p

[Blood fox]

I just wanted to write down any suspicions I had, mostly, so that I could go back and prove I called people out early on. I wrote down FusedMass as scum on day 2 =p

you know you doomed yourself when you switched play styles.

[Lysah]

you know you doomed yourself when you switched play styles.

I tried to lurk so that people would think "OMG Lysah playstyle change1!!!" and use their night actions on me which would feed me kills if I just targeted myself. After I was on day 3 with no kill and in high danger of starving to death from the start of the game I had to go back to being an asshat as usual. I think I played how I would ordinarily play the remainder of the game.

[Blood fox]

you got plenty of people to think you were scummy, but For me it was the whole change from lurking to being active. oh and then the fake Rc and trying to throw blame on me :P

[Lysah]

I had no reason to believe that you could survive my lynch - again I blame the mods for leaving the priority list completely dark.

[Blood fox]

i'm honestly surprised you got them to doubt me.

[Anakso]

Being a poacher was fun when I actually got to do a kill

[keleb]

Being a poacher was fun when I actually got to do a kill

Yea, what is not in the role description is that you cannot kill non-animals. On day one that actually saved you as the Elephant Bull made you target yourself. But you're a human yourself and you can't kill humans. Then on two of the three other nights you targeted humans...

I'll do a bit more explanation about the croc role as I invented it.

Character: Crocodile

Role: Modified Cannibal SK/Survivor

You are a hunter relying on patience. You lie in wait for a specific target. If the target makes a move or someone makes a move at the target, you'll strike killing the moving target. You will bring the target down to the bottom of the river leaving no trace for anyone but you to know what you just ate. Should you die... the remains of what you've eaten will float up to the surface for anyone to see.
You are reliant on succeeding in your hunt to get food so if you do not get to fed for three days you'll starve to death.

Win Condition: Survivor

You win if you are the last one alive at the end of the game.

The role is based around that you make your kill depending on who you think the other people with night action will do their night action on. If you think someone looks scummy, that person might be a good target because he might make a move and maybe the cop will make a move at that player and you'll get food. The weak point is that there are several people you can't kill with your ability. Those above you in the night priority list (three here), and those that cannot move (VTs, Masons...). Thus as much as possible those should be your lynch targets. So your play style should really be that someone should be lynched and you should try to target those you believe not to have night actions. This can't be said to be something easily done but it's not necessarily with a huge risk.

For night actions one should try to target those one thinks will make a move or be targeted by someone. There about 50% success rate targeting someone else than oneself and about 33% success rate while targeting oneself if everything is random. However, following the day one should be able to pick up a sense of who's got a PR. The self-part especially can be increased by making yourself a target. Something you saw Lysah do on D3 where she softclaimed (I think it was cop) and both vets and Greeney targeted her. Targeting self is otherwise in parts more risky as it decreases the chance of a kill, but you also increase your chance of surviving the night as you turn into a kind of PGO. This is also where the the starvation comes into play. You increase your short-term survival by turning into some kind of PGO, but you decrease your long-term survival as you risk starving. The opposite if you target someone else. Increased chance of a kill but you're more vulnerable.

During night you would also like to conserve your food. It is end game that might become really hard for you as you in an optimal condition would want at least one other person with a night action left alive when there's four people. There needs to be one other (viable) night action left going into night with six people if you need to feed on that night to survive.

I think a good part of Lysah's hardship in this game was that the PR that died were mostly those that were those she could kill, while those that survived were those she couldn't leading to only a theoretical chance of winning a day or two before the ending of the game. In part it is bad luck and luck (good or bad) should imo always be in a game. Sometimes you have a bit of luck and sometimes you don't. Sometimes bad luck makes you lose the game on day1 sometimes good luck makes you randomly pick that cop as your first NK. That both of the inactives that got lurker-lynched were scum was a considerable loss to Lysah. The Hyenas also looked to be in a really bad place at the start of day two having already lost half their numbers. Bad luck happens and it's part of the game. With the development of the game the croc was really behind in chance to win. The question is I think what I deem the chance of such happening would be. And I deep it to be rather small. In another kind of development of the game I think the croc could really have upset the town. The Cannibal trait might grow rather powerful for influencing the town.

[Dyra]

Since we've moved over to the Discussion Thread, going to close.