What is the best excuse you have heard for a player missng your raid?

[satanicway]

I would assume that its the same lame excuses people give for missing work.

I don't raid anymore for precisely this reason... people like you turn it into a job.

Is there a level of common courtesy, absolutely, and if I had planned to go to a friends house to play video games, or planned on being online to play, I would let people know that I am not planning on coming. I don't need to give a reason, I have chosen to do something else, and it isn't for you to decide whether or not that is a valid reason.

Yes, and that is like being an self absorbed idiot.

If you tell your friend you are going to his house on X day, he most certainly will make his plans based on that, will avoid other things he could have done, and everything. If something better shows up for you, and you say to him that you will not go anymore, you will screw his day, because you care only about yourself.

Seriously i HATE this kind of person.
If you say something to someone, damn DO IT! If this will cause you disconfort, that is your problem to say it in the first place.

Raiding, going out with friends, job, everything that you make a "deal" with someone needs to be respected.
If you will miss, you need a GOOD excuse, for sure.

[pld]

Wow I can see how tiring that would be. On that particular night I actually wanted to go to bed right before the incident but the rl persuaded me to stay for just one more try.

Hahaha, we were in high school then and times were different. Good times.

Yeah, we use the "one more try!" line sometimes on our raid members. Poor warlock. He woke up at like 4am for work that day, but we had to down Amber Shaper, dammit!

[Promark]

I would assume that its the same lame excuses people give for missing work.

I don't raid anymore for precisely this reason... people like you turn it into a job.

Is there a level of common courtesy, absolutely, and if I had planned to go to a friends house to play video games, or planned on being online to play, I would let people know that I am not planning on coming. I don't need to give a reason, I have chosen to do something else, and it isn't for you to decide whether or not that is a valid reason.

The people who make up lame excuses and ditch the raid leaving them hanging are the ones to blame, not the person organizing it. There would be no need for attendance rules or w/e if people would tell you in advance that they are planning to not be available. We get people who post 10 min before raid saying they can't be there because X reason, usually something that should be planned, or they don't show at all. Not a very nice thing to do to the rest of the group who are now stuck sitting on their thumbs for the night unless they can find a replacement. Guess what it turns into for the leader? A job.

[Tommy T]

I would assume that its the same lame excuses people give for missing work.

I don't raid anymore for precisely this reason... people like you turn it into a job.

Is there a level of common courtesy, absolutely, and if I had planned to go to a friends house to play video games, or planned on being online to play, I would let people know that I am not planning on coming. I don't need to give a reason, I have chosen to do something else, and it isn't for you to decide whether or not that is a valid reason.

A fucking Men.

If I'm out for the day at college, and someone asks me to do something with them, do you really think I'm going to say "Sorry, I'm raiding with my nerds tonight. Really want to get a piece of virtual gear for my pretty blood elf."

I would text the leader and say "sorry, can't make tonight, got plans now, good luck, have fun".

If they didn't like it, they could damn well lump it.

Real Life > Gaming

[Uennie]

Just remembered. Last night the raidleader disbanded it after the first boss because he forgot The Walking Dead was on.

Was mad.

[alturic]

The people who make up lame excuses and ditch the raid leaving them hanging are the ones to blame, not the person organizing it. There would be no need for attendance rules or w/e if people would tell you in advance that they are planning to not be available. We get people who post 10 min before raid saying they can't be there because X reason, usually something that should be planned, or they don't show at all. Not a very nice thing to do to the rest of the group who are now stuck sitting on their thumbs for the night unless they can find a replacement. Guess what it turns into for the leader? A job.

I'm really surprised the amount of people that actually comprehend what a "team" is. You essentially have an open-ended "agreement" with 9 or 24 other people when you say "oh you raid 3 days a week between 7-11? GREAT! I can make those days and time every single raid!" and then no-show by saying "sorry wanted to hang with bros for a night" when the night before everyone was sitting around wondering where the fuck you were. I can understand (although not really since you have 4 other days to do it) if you told people in advance you were going to be "hanging with bros" next week or something but seriously.

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A fucking Men.

If I'm out for the day at college, and someone asks me to do something with them, do you really think I'm going to say "Sorry, I'm raiding with my nerds tonight. Really want to get a piece of virtual gear for my pretty blood elf."

I would text the leader and say "sorry, can't make tonight, got plans now, good luck, have fun".

So, being that you essentially had plans for the night with your online friends/team/guild/raid previously you couldn't say "crap man, doing something tonight, how about tomorrow night we go out?". I'm willing to bet you're one of those people who feel you can't really have friends "online".

I guess it really does come down to the level of raiding you feel comfortable with, no disrespect (honestly), but I'm willing to bet your guild is more of the LFR style guild? You simply raid when you have time? If not, how the hell do you feel when you're ready to raid and then someone says "sorry guys, don't mean to fuck your night over, but I'm not going to show tonight"?

People like you aren't really the ones who this thread is directed at really I don't believe considering you won't be in a "traditional" raiding guild.

[reef]

I would assume that its the same lame excuses people give for missing work.

I don't raid anymore for precisely this reason... people like you turn it into a job.

Is there a level of common courtesy, absolutely, and if I had planned to go to a friends house to play video games, or planned on being online to play, I would let people know that I am not planning on coming. I don't need to give a reason, I have chosen to do something else, and it isn't for you to decide whether or not that is a valid reason.

If someone is in a progression guild that has a set raid schedule, they are pretty much "signing a contract" when they are accepted. It is their duty to meet the expected raid times and not delay 9 or 24 other people. Players know what they are signing up for when they apply to progression guilds and they do it because they obviously want to raid in said progression guild. Raiding becomes a scheduled hobby rather than something you do whenever you want to when you are in a progression guild.

[Tommy T]

I'm really surprised the amount of people that actually comprehend what a "team" is. You essentially have an open-ended "agreement" with 9 or 24 other people when you say "oh you raid 3 days a week between 7-11? GREAT! I can make those days and time every single raid!" and then no-show by saying "sorry wanted to hang with bros for a night" when the night before everyone was sitting around wondering where the fuck you were. I can understand (although not really since you have 4 other days to do it) if you told people in advance you were going to be "hanging with bros" next week or something but seriously.

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So, being that you essentially had plans for the night with your online friends/team/guild/raid previously you couldn't say "crap man, doing something tonight, how about tomorrow night we go out?". I'm willing to bet you're one of those people who feel you can't really have friends "online".

I guess it really does come down to the level of raiding you feel comfortable with, no disrespect (honestly), but I'm willing to bet your guild is more of the LFR style guild? You simply raid when you have time? If not, how the hell do you feel when you're ready to raid and then someone says "sorry guys, don't mean to fuck your night over, but I'm not going to show tonight"?

People like you aren't really the ones who this thread is directed at really I don't believe considering you won't be in a "traditional" raiding guild.

Raiding on WoW is still a GAME. WoW is a GAME.

For me, my real life is more important. I have only ever had a few people that I would consider friends in the years I played WoW. If you have a whole raid full of friends, and that's what you enjoy, fair play to you. Enjoy it. Do what you want. It's your life.

This is my life, and if I decide to go out/do something that interferes with the raiding schedule then god help them, because I literally couldn't give a poop.

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[3DTyrant]

Not my story, but a friend has heared the excuse of: "My pet snail died, I have to go" re-read that "pet -SNAIL-" not sure if she was in a dungeon, or in a raid, but made me laugh for a good few mins when she told me...

[pld]

A fucking Men.

If I'm out for the day at college, and someone asks me to do something with them, do you really think I'm going to say "Sorry, I'm raiding with my nerds tonight. Really want to get a piece of virtual gear for my pretty blood elf."

I would text the leader and say "sorry, can't make tonight, got plans now, good luck, have fun".

If they didn't like it, they could damn well lump it.

Real Life > Gaming

Having raided during college, I definitely understand that things come up unexpectedly and that there are times where you can't show up to raid. That said, it doesn't seem fair to treat your "online" friends and guildmates like second-rate friends.

Raiding for most people isn't necessarily for the loot, but rather for the social interaction. Most of us spend/have spent a lot of time in-game together and I think it's fair enough to say that the friends we make through the game are just as much our friend as people we hang out with IRL.

Personally speaking, I wouldn't blow off plans with a RL friend unless I had a legitimate reason to, so I try to use that same rationale with my guildmates.

[Tommy T]

Having raided during college, I definitely understand that things come up unexpectedly and that there are times where you can't show up to raid. That said, it doesn't seem fair to treat your "online" friends and guildmates like second-rate friends.

Raiding for most people isn't necessarily for the loot, but rather for the social interaction. Most of us spend/have spent a lot of time in-game together and I think it's fair enough to say that the friends we make through the game are just as much our friend as people we hang out with IRL.

Personally speaking, I wouldn't blow off plans with a RL friend unless I had a legitimate reason to, so I try to use that same rationale with my guildmates.

If you want social interaction, why not go out with friends you could have drinks with, and have a decent laugh with?

Socialising through a headset with people you've likely never met isn't what I call quality socialising. But hey, to each their own.

[Deja Thoris]

Raiding on WoW is still a GAME. WoW is a GAME.

For me, my real life is more important. I have only ever had a few people that I would consider friends in the years I played WoW. If you have a whole raid full of friends, and that's what you enjoy, fair play to you. Enjoy it. Do what you want. It's your life.

This is my life, and if I decide to go out/do something that interferes with the raiding schedule then god help them, because I literally couldn't give a poop.[COLOR="red"]

I get the whole "RL is important" thing. However, its also important to me to honour a commitment I made to 9/24 others, they are real ppl afterall even if its only over the internets. If you can't make it then don't agree to go, making excuses just because your brosefs decide to go and get pissed 30 min before a raid starts just shows immatuirty in my opinion.

[mitbrandir]

The most lamest thing i ever seen was our raidleader being late because of the time to change from wintertime to summertime. I mean come on.

[pld]

If you want social interaction, why not go out with friends you could have drinks with, and have a decent laugh with?

Socialising through a headset with people you've likely never met isn't what I call quality socialising. But hey, to each their own.

I suppose my situation is a bit different since I raid with RL friends (so we can raid together during the week and then hang out IRL during the weekends).

However, even when I was in a larger guild with people I didn't know, I usually looked for a guild where I could have genuine fun with the people I raided with while having decent progression. I don't need to see someone face-to-face to "have a decent laugh" with someone.

I'm not saying that real life priorities and relationships should be viewed in the same light as WoW/online friends since they are different in nature, but with some consideration, you can have both without neglecting either.

[Kaneiac]

This is my life, and if I decide to go out/do something that interferes with the raiding schedule then god help them, because I literally couldn't give a poop.

You're absolutely, 100% correct. And I agree with you.

The conflict arrives when people wish to be in hardcore raiding guilds, want all of the perks, gear and rewards, and ALSO expect the entire guild to work around them to achieve this, when they don't care enough to return the effort. If the other 9/24 people were that way, and simply didn't give a fuck, you wouldn't get anywhere. It's a matter of having common courtesy to not waste other people's time.

I see the way you stomach it - you picture these people (they are real people, like it or not) as faceless blobs that come and go to suit your convenience.

[Unholyground]

The most lamest thing i ever seen was our raidleader being late because of the time to change from wintertime to summertime. I mean come on.

YES best excuse ever, now if they used it every day you know something is up.

[Simon_Moon]

Heroic LK tries, after the first few wipes our warrior said brb and disappeared. Wasn't back until half an hour later. Two tons of strawberries had just been delivered to his house. Looked like he had good help storing them in that time.

In general I compare wow to soccer clubs. If they are casual they will understand and get mad if you overdo it, if they are professional they will fire you. Only progression raiders aren't millionaires, at least not from raiding only.

[Phookah]

I would assume that its the same lame excuses people give for missing work.

I don't raid anymore for precisely this reason... people like you turn it into a job.

Is there a level of common courtesy, absolutely, and if I had planned to go to a friends house to play video games, or planned on being online to play, I would let people know that I am not planning on coming. I don't need to give a reason, I have chosen to do something else, and it isn't for you to decide whether or not that is a valid reason.

You'd be a 100% correct except for 1 fact: When you make a date to raid along with 9/24 other people, and then don't show up or just don't go because you don't want to you are being an asshole. All those other people had the common courtesy to show up or let people know they wouldn't be there, as not to waste many other peoples time. If you aren't sure whether or not you want to raid that week, then don't sign up.

[Freia]

We had a tank who openly said he thought heroic MSV was a waste of time while we were trying to progress on it. One raid day we planned on doing heroic elegon, he says he is "lagging" and proceeds to run around to Terrace and HoF and proclaiming he is only lagging in MSV and didn't know what is wrong. We bring in a tank alt from the weekend raid team. After we get a 2% wipe, our tank stopped lagging and said he would come in. I was annoyed our raid leader brought him in (the tank we brought in should have gotten the kill over our lazy tank who didn't want to put in the work). Eventually we finally got him replaced. He would only want to raid Terrace then make excuses for the other days (many times while playing on his alts during our raid time) and he also had major performance issues.

[Ninotchka]

We had someone come back late from a scheduled break only to tell us he had had to take a shower and thought it would be faster. Uh huh.

We still kid him about it.