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    Racial Glyphs

    I think it was Ghostcrawler that once pointed out how Racial skills sometimes force more min-maxed players to pick races they don't really like to get that extra oomph and how it might have been better if we didn't have racials at all so we could choose our characters more freely.

    I agree with him on part, but I kinda like racials so what if tried to balance this out with Glyphs instead?

    Here's a few examples of glyphs I think could be beneficial:

    Glyph of Headhunting: Troll's Beastslaying now increases damage against humanoids instead of beasts (This could help trolls in PvP, give them something less than 5% tough!)

    Glyph of Crystalform: Dwarven Stoneform give a small boost to spell damage but removes the damage reduction buff (to help caster dwarves)

    Glyph of Wrath of the Forsaken: When activated it gives a small boost to your primary stats. Replaces Will of the Forsaken (for the odd undead that doesn't PvP)


    In the end min-maxers will still be able to point out which is the best race for every specific role, but we might be able to iron the bumps a little while adding some more much needed customization to the game. What do you guys think? Can you create any more glyphs that might help under-represented races in some specific roles?

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    I think it might be easier to either just remove racials or give racials that are purely graphic effects and nothing more. Interesting idea though. Definitely out of the box.

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    But then they lose all that $$ from people race changing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by asharia View Post
    But then they lose all that $$ from people race changing..
    Companies don't really think like that, that's tinfoil hat mentality. They know customers are more likely to keep paying for longer if they are more satisfied with the product, for a subscription based game like WoW that means everything.

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    I don't see how this would reduce the issue at all, if anything it'd increase the disparity between the races (resulting in bigger advantages/disadvantages).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie View Post
    I don't see how this would reduce the issue at all, if anything it'd increase the disparity between the races (resulting in bigger advantages/disadvantages).
    If poorly made yes, there's that risk, which is why I think it would be important to think the glyphs through carefully first. that's why I didn't list any glyphs that might make humans or undeads any better at PvP or trolls and worgen better as PvE rogues. With these glyphs Blizzard could also have another area for number tweaking if race power ever got too out of hand.

    "Hmm, Glyph of Headhunting made trolls too good at PvP, let's lower it's effect another percent to balance things..."

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    I wouldn't mind seeing Racial Glyphs, although you know this is how it's gonna go down:

    X Racial Glyph is going to be too powerful. Blizzard is going to be forced to nerf it. People are going to bitch from both sides; those who you used to have the full power of the glyph and those on the receiving end.

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    Racial glyphs! Let me find an older post of mine, with ideas for (lesser) racial glyphs.


    Ah, here it is.

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    Purely Aesthetical
    Human - Glyph of the Cult - Pales your skin and gives you eye markings, changing your appearance to that of a member of the Cult of the Damned.
    Dwarf - Glyph of the Highlands - Replaces your chestpiece with a leather harness and adds blue tattoos to your body, changing your appearance to that of a Wildhammer Dwarf.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Ragnaros - Darkens your skin, blackens your (facial) hair and reddens your eyes, changing your appearance to that of a Dark Iron Dwarf.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Ulduar - Partially reverts the visual effects of the Curse of Flesh, changing your appearance to that of [an Earthen].
    Dwarf - Glyph of High Kings - (WARRIOR ONLY) Your Avatar ability gives you a more steely appearance, and causes your equipped weapons to appear as a giant mace and axe.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Inebriation - Being completely wasted on alcoholic beverages now animates you as being stunned. 30% chance every minute to spout random gibberish.
    Nightelf - Glyph of Elune - Gives you the Elune's Blessing ability. Slightly illuminates the area around you while having a moon sigil above your head. Lasts 5 minutes, 20 minutes cooldown. (Similar to Tyrande's flavor buff at the end of WoE 5-man)
    Nightelf - Glyph of Ancestral Weaponry - Changes the appearance of your ranged weapon and fired ammunition into that of a four-pronged Glaive. Auto-shot ammunition becomes invisible. Changes the appearance of your mainhand weapon into that of a three-pronged Glaive. When dualwielding, changes the appearance of both weapons into that of a two-pronged Glaive.
    Draenei - Glyph of Inner Light - Makes the Sigil of the Naaru on the Draenei's forehead (related to Gift of the Naaru) permanently present.
    Gnome - Glyph of Ulduar - Partially reverts the visual effects of the Curse of Flesh, changing your appearance to that of [a Mechagnome].
    Gnome - Glyph of Greatest Invention - Attaches plateau heels under your boots, boosting you to near-dwarven height! My, you're a tall one!

    Orc - Glyph of Garadar - Causes your skin to adopt a brown hue, changing your appearance to that of a Maghar Orc.
    Orc - Glyph of Mannoroth - Changes your skin to adopt a red hue, changing your appearance to that of a Fel Orc. Your Blood Fury ability makes you grow 15% larger for the duration of the buff.
    Troll - Glyph of Zul - Bulks you up, changing your bodytype into that of Forest Trolls. (would require a new forest femtroll body model)
    Troll - Glyph of Headhunting - (HUNTER ONLY) Ranged weapons and fired ammunition now appear as thrown spears. Auto-shot ammunition becomes invisible.
    Troll - Glyph of the Death Loa - When claiming a Killing Blow on an enemy player, there is a 20% chance Bwonsamdi will spawn, dancing and /laughing at your opponent's corpse.
    Tauren - Glyph of Frozen Ancestry - Changes your form to adapt to a northern environment, changing your appearance to that of a Taunka.
    Tauren - Glyph of the Chieftain - Your Warstomp leaves cracked fissures in the ground.
    Tauren - Glyph of Bloodhoof - When you corpserun, you can sometimes see the spirit of Cairne in the distance, giving you a /cheer.
    Undead - Glyph of the Spreading Sorrow - Grants you the Sorrowalk ability, leaving a trail of wilted flowers and blighted ground in your wake. (Lasts 15 seconds, 5 minute cooldown)
    Undead - Glyph of Tablemanners - Cannibalism now causes bloodspatters while channelled, and leaves behind a Corpse Explosion meat model.
    Undead - Glyph of Creeping Death - Your walk animation now makes you shamble instead, with your arms stretched outwards before you. Brains.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of Sunwell Purity - Removes the demonic influence from your eyes, returning it to High Elven blue.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of Warlock Envy - (MAGE ONLY) Gives you three floating Verdant Spheres around your shoulders.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of the Vampyr - Darkens your skin and dulls our your hair color, giving you the appearance of Northrend Darkfallen. When you are hit by a critical strike, you sparkle.

    Pandaren - Glyph of Surf - When under the effects of any waterwalking effect, you'll appear to be surfing on a straw hat instead.
    Pandaren - Glyph of Extra Bouncy - When landing from a height that would kill a non-Pandaren, you bounce 2 more times with forward momentum equal to half of your initial movement, at 60% and 30% falling height respectivly.
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    Other
    Human - Glyph of Charisma - Replaces your Diplomacy ability with Charisma, allowing you to Seduce any target enemy humanoid. Channelled. (Lasts 30 seconds or until damaged)
    Gnome - Glyph of Penultimate Tinkering - Gives you the Mech-Suit Ability. Allows you to board a Mech-Suit, increasing your health and all damage and healing done by 20% for 30 seconds... before it malfunctions and explodes, instantly killing you.
    Draenei - Glyph of the Unforgotten - Replaces your Gift of the Naaru with Remembrance of the Naaru. Summons a spark of the Naaru to heal four random friendly targets for (half value of GotN). When out of mana, the miniature Naaru will follow you around for 2 minutes. (6 minute cooldown)
    Worgen - Glyph of Home - Grants you the Longing Memory ability, teleporting you to a phased version of Gilneas with a functional bank, auction house and class trainers. Cast again to return to where you were.
    Worgen - Glyph of Chihuahua-Bane - Changes the appearance of Female Worgen to that of Alpha Female Worgen. Changes the appearance of Male Worgen to that of a Classic Worgen.

    Orc - Glyph of Lost Teachings - (WARRIOR ONLY) Upon placing a battle banner, it instead appears on your back, and causes your chestpiece, shoulders, shirt and tabard to become invisible, while equipping you with prayer beads, and causing your equipped weapon to appear as a twohander katana. Lasts for the duration of the battle banner.
    Tauren - Glyph of the Forgotten Ability - Grants you the Plainsrunning ability, allowing you to travel at high speeds across land.
    Goblin - Glyph of True Goblinism - Replaces your Rocket Barrage ability with Self Destruct, instantly killing yourself and dealing 35% of your HP as fire damage in an area around you. Causes knockback.
    Goblin - Glyph of Ideas - Gives you the Product Sample ability. Product Sample conjures a single can of Kaja'Cola. It gives you IDEAS! (TM) (2 minute cooldown. Conjured items disappear if logged out for more than 15 minutes)

    Pandaren - Glyph of the Iron Stomach - You're able to eat food usually limited to 10 levels above yours.
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    Last edited by Chonar; 2013-03-05 at 08:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonar View Post
    Racial glyphs! Let me find an older post of mine, with ideas for (lesser) racial glyphs.


    Ah, here it is.

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    Purely Aesthetical
    Human - Glyph of the Cult - Pales your skin and gives you eye markings, changing your appearance to that of a member of the Cult of the Damned.
    Dwarf - Glyph of the Highlands - Replaces your chestpiece with a leather harness and adds blue tattoos to your body, changing your appearance to that of a Wildhammer Dwarf.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Ragnaros - Darkens your skin, blackens your (facial) hair and reddens your eyes, changing your appearance to that of a Dark Iron Dwarf.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Ulduar - Partially reverts the visual effects of the Curse of Flesh, changing your appearance to that of [an Earthen].
    Dwarf - Glyph of High Kings - (WARRIOR ONLY) Your Avatar ability gives you a more steely appearance, and causes your equipped weapons to appear as a giant mace and axe.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Inebriation - Being completely wasted on alcoholic beverages now animates you as being stunned. 30% chance every minute to spout random gibberish.
    Nightelf - Glyph of Elune - Gives you the Elune's Blessing ability. Slightly illuminates the area around you while having a moon sigil above your head. Lasts 5 minutes, 20 minutes cooldown. (Similar to Tyrande's flavor buff at the end of WoE 5-man)
    Nightelf - Glyph of Ancestral Weaponry - Changes the appearance of your ranged weapon and fired ammunition into that of a four-pronged Glaive. Auto-shot ammunition becomes invisible. Changes the appearance of your mainhand weapon into that of a three-pronged Glaive. When dualwielding, changes the appearance of both weapons into that of a two-pronged Glaive.
    Draenei - Glyph of Inner Light - Makes the Sigil of the Naaru on the Draenei's forehead (related to Gift of the Naaru) permanently present.
    Gnome - Glyph of Ulduar - Partially reverts the visual effects of the Curse of Flesh, changing your appearance to that of [a Mechagnome].
    Gnome - Glyph of Greatest Invention - Attaches plateau heels under your boots, boosting you to near-dwarven height! My, you're a tall one!

    Orc - Glyph of Garadar - Causes your skin to adopt a brown hue, changing your appearance to that of a Maghar Orc.
    Orc - Glyph of Mannoroth - Changes your skin to adopt a red hue, changing your appearance to that of a Fel Orc. Your Blood Fury ability makes you grow 15% larger for the duration of the buff.
    Troll - Glyph of Zul - Bulks you up, changing your bodytype into that of Forest Trolls. (would require a new forest femtroll body model)
    Troll - Glyph of Headhunting - (HUNTER ONLY) Ranged weapons and fired ammunition now appear as thrown spears. Auto-shot ammunition becomes invisible.
    Troll - Glyph of the Death Loa - When claiming a Killing Blow on an enemy player, there is a 20% chance Bwonsamdi will spawn, dancing and /laughing at your opponent's corpse.
    Tauren - Glyph of Frozen Ancestry - Changes your form to adapt to a northern environment, changing your appearance to that of a Taunka.
    Tauren - Glyph of the Chieftain - Your Warstomp leaves cracked fissures in the ground.
    Tauren - Glyph of Bloodhoof - When you corpserun, you can sometimes see the spirit of Cairne in the distance, giving you a /cheer.
    Undead - Glyph of the Spreading Sorrow - Grants you the Sorrowalk ability, leaving a trail of wilted flowers and blighted ground in your wake. (Lasts 15 seconds, 5 minute cooldown)
    Undead - Glyph of Tablemanners - Cannibalism now causes bloodspatters while channelled, and leaves behind a Corpse Explosion meat model.
    Undead - Glyph of Creeping Death - Your walk animation now makes you shamble instead, with your arms stretched outwards before you. Brains.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of Sunwell Purity - Removes the demonic influence from your eyes, returning it to High Elven blue.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of Warlock Envy - (MAGE ONLY) Gives you three floating Verdant Spheres around your shoulders.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of the Vampyr - Darkens your skin and dulls our your hair color, giving you the appearance of Northrend Darkfallen. When you are hit by a critical strike, you sparkle.

    Pandaren - Glyph of Surf - When under the effects of any waterwalking effect, you'll appear to be surfing on a straw hat instead.
    Pandaren - Glyph of Extra Bouncy - When landing from a height that would kill a non-Pandaren, you bounce 2 more times with forward momentum equal to half of your initial movement, at 60% and 30% falling height respectivly.
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    Other
    Human - Glyph of Charisma - Replaces your Diplomacy ability with Charisma, allowing you to Seduce any target enemy humanoid. Channelled. (Lasts 30 seconds or until damaged)
    Gnome - Glyph of Penultimate Tinkering - Gives you the Mech-Suit Ability. Allows you to board a Mech-Suit, increasing your health and all damage and healing done by 20% for 30 seconds... before it malfunctions and explodes, instantly killing you.
    Draenei - Glyph of the Unforgotten - Replaces your Gift of the Naaru with Remembrance of the Naaru. Summons a spark of the Naaru to heal four random friendly targets for (half value of GotN). When out of mana, the miniature Naaru will follow you around for 2 minutes. (6 minute cooldown)
    Worgen - Glyph of Home - Grants you the Longing Memory ability, teleporting you to a phased version of Gilneas with a functional bank, auction house and class trainers. Cast again to return to where you were.
    Worgen - Glyph of Chihuahua-Bane - Changes the appearance of Female Worgen to that of Alpha Female Worgen. Changes the appearance of Male Worgen to that of a Classic Worgen.

    Orc - Glyph of Lost Teachings - (WARRIOR ONLY) Upon placing a battle banner, it instead appears on your back, and causes your chestpiece, shoulders, shirt and tabard to become invisible, while equipping you with prayer beads, and causing your equipped weapon to appear as a twohander katana. Lasts for the duration of the battle banner.
    Tauren - Glyph of the Forgotten Ability - Grants you the Plainsrunning ability, allowing you to travel at high speeds across land.
    Goblin - Glyph of True Goblinism - Replaces your Rocket Barrage ability with Self Destruct, instantly killing yourself and dealing 35% of your HP as fire damage in an area around you. Causes knockback.
    Goblin - Glyph of Ideas - Gives you the Product Sample ability. Product Sample conjures a single can of Kaja'Cola. It gives you IDEAS! (TM) (2 minute cooldown. Conjured items disappear if logged out for more than 15 minutes)

    Pandaren - Glyph of the Iron Stomach - You're able to eat food usually limited to 10 levels above yours.
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    I like this idea of the dwarfs and other racials changing appearence nicely done man!
    Stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chonar View Post
    Racial glyphs! Let me find an older post of mine, with ideas for (lesser) racial glyphs.


    Ah, here it is.

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    Purely Aesthetical
    Human - Glyph of the Cult - Pales your skin and gives you eye markings, changing your appearance to that of a member of the Cult of the Damned.
    Dwarf - Glyph of the Highlands - Replaces your chestpiece with a leather harness and adds blue tattoos to your body, changing your appearance to that of a Wildhammer Dwarf.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Ragnaros - Darkens your skin, blackens your (facial) hair and reddens your eyes, changing your appearance to that of a Dark Iron Dwarf.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Ulduar - Partially reverts the visual effects of the Curse of Flesh, changing your appearance to that of [an Earthen].
    Dwarf - Glyph of High Kings - (WARRIOR ONLY) Your Avatar ability gives you a more steely appearance, and causes your equipped weapons to appear as a giant mace and axe.
    Dwarf - Glyph of Inebriation - Being completely wasted on alcoholic beverages now animates you as being stunned. 30% chance every minute to spout random gibberish.
    Nightelf - Glyph of Elune - Gives you the Elune's Blessing ability. Slightly illuminates the area around you while having a moon sigil above your head. Lasts 5 minutes, 20 minutes cooldown. (Similar to Tyrande's flavor buff at the end of WoE 5-man)
    Nightelf - Glyph of Ancestral Weaponry - Changes the appearance of your ranged weapon and fired ammunition into that of a four-pronged Glaive. Auto-shot ammunition becomes invisible. Changes the appearance of your mainhand weapon into that of a three-pronged Glaive. When dualwielding, changes the appearance of both weapons into that of a two-pronged Glaive.
    Draenei - Glyph of Inner Light - Makes the Sigil of the Naaru on the Draenei's forehead (related to Gift of the Naaru) permanently present.
    Gnome - Glyph of Ulduar - Partially reverts the visual effects of the Curse of Flesh, changing your appearance to that of [a Mechagnome].
    Gnome - Glyph of Greatest Invention - Attaches plateau heels under your boots, boosting you to near-dwarven height! My, you're a tall one!

    Orc - Glyph of Garadar - Causes your skin to adopt a brown hue, changing your appearance to that of a Maghar Orc.
    Orc - Glyph of Mannoroth - Changes your skin to adopt a red hue, changing your appearance to that of a Fel Orc. Your Blood Fury ability makes you grow 15% larger for the duration of the buff.
    Troll - Glyph of Zul - Bulks you up, changing your bodytype into that of Forest Trolls. (would require a new forest femtroll body model)
    Troll - Glyph of Headhunting - (HUNTER ONLY) Ranged weapons and fired ammunition now appear as thrown spears. Auto-shot ammunition becomes invisible.
    Troll - Glyph of the Death Loa - When claiming a Killing Blow on an enemy player, there is a 20% chance Bwonsamdi will spawn, dancing and /laughing at your opponent's corpse.
    Tauren - Glyph of Frozen Ancestry - Changes your form to adapt to a northern environment, changing your appearance to that of a Taunka.
    Tauren - Glyph of the Chieftain - Your Warstomp leaves cracked fissures in the ground.
    Tauren - Glyph of Bloodhoof - When you corpserun, you can sometimes see the spirit of Cairne in the distance, giving you a /cheer.
    Undead - Glyph of the Spreading Sorrow - Grants you the Sorrowalk ability, leaving a trail of wilted flowers and blighted ground in your wake. (Lasts 15 seconds, 5 minute cooldown)
    Undead - Glyph of Tablemanners - Cannibalism now causes bloodspatters while channelled, and leaves behind a Corpse Explosion meat model.
    Undead - Glyph of Creeping Death - Your walk animation now makes you shamble instead, with your arms stretched outwards before you. Brains.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of Sunwell Purity - Removes the demonic influence from your eyes, returning it to High Elven blue.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of Warlock Envy - (MAGE ONLY) Gives you three floating Verdant Spheres around your shoulders.
    Blood Elf - Glyph of the Vampyr - Darkens your skin and dulls our your hair color, giving you the appearance of Northrend Darkfallen. When you are hit by a critical strike, you sparkle.

    Pandaren - Glyph of Surf - When under the effects of any waterwalking effect, you'll appear to be surfing on a straw hat instead.
    Pandaren - Glyph of Extra Bouncy - When landing from a height that would kill a non-Pandaren, you bounce 2 more times with forward momentum equal to half of your initial movement, at 60% and 30% falling height respectivly.
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    Other
    Human - Glyph of Charisma - Replaces your Diplomacy ability with Charisma, allowing you to Seduce any target enemy humanoid. Channelled. (Lasts 30 seconds or until damaged)
    Gnome - Glyph of Penultimate Tinkering - Gives you the Mech-Suit Ability. Allows you to board a Mech-Suit, increasing your health and all damage and healing done by 20% for 30 seconds... before it malfunctions and explodes, instantly killing you.
    Draenei - Glyph of the Unforgotten - Replaces your Gift of the Naaru with Remembrance of the Naaru. Summons a spark of the Naaru to heal four random friendly targets for (half value of GotN). When out of mana, the miniature Naaru will follow you around for 2 minutes. (6 minute cooldown)
    Worgen - Glyph of Home - Grants you the Longing Memory ability, teleporting you to a phased version of Gilneas with a functional bank, auction house and class trainers. Cast again to return to where you were.
    Worgen - Glyph of Chihuahua-Bane - Changes the appearance of Female Worgen to that of Alpha Female Worgen. Changes the appearance of Male Worgen to that of a Classic Worgen.

    Orc - Glyph of Lost Teachings - (WARRIOR ONLY) Upon placing a battle banner, it instead appears on your back, and causes your chestpiece, shoulders, shirt and tabard to become invisible, while equipping you with prayer beads, and causing your equipped weapon to appear as a twohander katana. Lasts for the duration of the battle banner.
    Tauren - Glyph of the Forgotten Ability - Grants you the Plainsrunning ability, allowing you to travel at high speeds across land.
    Goblin - Glyph of True Goblinism - Replaces your Rocket Barrage ability with Self Destruct, instantly killing yourself and dealing 35% of your HP as fire damage in an area around you. Causes knockback.
    Goblin - Glyph of Ideas - Gives you the Product Sample ability. Product Sample conjures a single can of Kaja'Cola. It gives you IDEAS! (TM) (2 minute cooldown. Conjured items disappear if logged out for more than 15 minutes)

    Pandaren - Glyph of the Iron Stomach - You're able to eat food usually limited to 10 levels above yours.
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    The gameplay changing ones I'm quite "meeehhhhhhh" about.

    The aesthetic ones, though, get fifteen thumbs up from me.
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    I am not sure if racial glyphs are really a good idea or not, but I hope they will revamp races in general when they release the new models, if not sooner. It is a bit silly when racials on one side are strong enough that many progress oriented guilds feel the need to faction change just because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    The gameplay changing ones I'm quite "meeehhhhhhh" about.

    The aesthetic ones, though, get fifteen thumbs up from me.
    good sir, do you have fifteen thumbs?
    Warlorcs of Draenorc made me quit. You can't have my stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by checking facts View Post
    good sir, do you have fifteen thumbs?
    He has them for meeeeeeeeeee. >:C

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    Chonar , i love your idea

    i wish i could be Fel Orc

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    Prehaps instead of Glyphs you can unlock them via quests?

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