As I understand it, Mastery and Crit are very close in value to start with, but Crit tapers off eventually and is worse than Mastery as soon as there's a second target anyhow. Haste is not a good stat and should be avoided.
I just went to the noxxic website and they say they have updated it for 5.4. They are recommending Mastery>=Haste>Crit and in their rotation, they still have RoF as part of the single target rotation. Also, they recommend KJC over AD. I know this is wrong but it is sad to see bad information out there and this is a site many people use.
I have been playing destroy since 5.4 went live. I am finding that I am not often having periods when I do not have backdraft up to cast Incin. I have been seeing my FF hit for like 70-80K and my incin hit for 135-150K. So, even with out backdraft I am seeing 150K dmg for 1.6 sec cast time (w/o backdrafts 30% reduction) or 140-160K dmg for 2 GCD's which is 2 sec. So over a whole fight, wouldn't it be better to just to cast incinerate and only use FF for movement?
What about your embers ?So, even with out backdraft I am seeing 150K dmg for 1.6 sec cast time (w/o backdrafts 30% reduction) or 140-160K dmg for 2 GCD's which is 2 sec. So over a whole fight, wouldn't it be better to just to cast incinerate and only use FF for movement?
Well, I did a whole lot better on last nights 10N raid. we finished the first wing. I'm getting use to the lack of moving while casting and If anything I'm sure my dps will improve because im still not quite timing my Dark soul as well as i could since im not use to having two charges on it but overall my dps was still at or near the top behind the rogue, which isnt as bad as i expected it to be. I know the scalling problem will probably be a problem later on but for now with 2 pieces of 561 gear and the rest at the 530 (and a few thunderforged pieces) ilvl mark (im down to my 2 piece bonus of T15), I'm doing pretty well. soul link is working better for me then sacrifice, shadowfury is amazingly helpful on Sha of pride for the reflections. need to work on my cleveing some more. the third boss invites alot of shadowburn abuse due to the number of adds, i just am not quick enough to take full advantage of it yet. Need to update my havok macros.
For T16H using fel flame as filler when backdraft is down gives basically the same dps as incinerate as the only filler. I will thus only use FF for movement
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Anyone in here have any experience on Galakras as destro?
I was affliction in the tower group on Galakras, but we had some trouble in the ground group thanks to our healer dc'ing and our ele shamen needing to go resto - I remember reading that MF was pretty gimp for destro since it only affects ROF, is destro still any good at the mass AOE of Galakras adds, or would I be better off going with demo for it?
Appreciate any advice.
I did Galakras last night as Destro and it was mad fun. I was in the ground group. 10 man
RoFs reduced ember gen is noticeable here.
I used AD and the AoE was still great. FnB hits hard.
So many chances to Havoc snipe Shadowburns onto important adds.
Pets seem to die a lot. I would up using GoSac.
There's a lot of incorrect information floating around the past few pages, so I just wanted to clarify this.
ALSO, as I included at the top of the guide, anything below the TL;DR: 5.3->5.4 changes section is current out of date!
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The stat priority for a Destruction Warlock is:
2. Hit Rating (until 15%);
3. Haste Rating (single-target) or Mastery Rating (multiple-target);
4. Mastery Rating (single-target) or Haste Rating (multiple-target);
5. Critical Strike Rating.
These statistics have been obtained by combining common sense, in-game testing, and simulations using Simulation Craft.
If you are unsure what the optimal reforging strategy is for the above priority, you can Ask Mr. Robot for a personalised optimisation of your character's gear, by filling the form below.
Yeah i disagree with that. I did the first two bosses with high haste, next two with high mastery/crit and I saw a huge difference in my dps. mastery is definately above haste. crit im not positive of. i had 16% haste 30% crit and 106% mastery raid buffed for the second day vs 32% haste 22% crit and about 75% mastery on the first day.
I'm a bit confused. According to AskMrRobot I should gem for pure crit .Is this an error or should I follow their advice?
Why would you ever follow what AskMrRobot says by default ?
Crit and Mastery are point for point equivalent for single target, but Mastery pulls head the second you get any additional targets. Also, crit hits a soft-cap (or breakpoint if you prefer) where your ember generation with 4pc T16 is greater than the ICD on it (10 seconds).
Smoothmeduso has been touting a crit-focused build for raiding for a few weeks now, but I haven't seen any indication in either my testing or his justifications, for why Crit is significantly better than Mastery. I'm not sure if it's an unclear explanation on his part, but his logic tends to fall apart and become circular when explaining his reasoning. I did specifically test a crit focused build, and I found it behind (1.5-2.5%) Mastery-focused for all Grims for single target. With more targets Mastery only pulls ahead.
If you think I can figure that out myself easily, just point me to the right direction. I'm really trying to understand all this numbers, but I'm not really there yet so any help is appreciated.
A mastery heavy built is the best way to go for switching to the other speccs. With 10/14 down I gave destru a couple of tries but the only 2 fights I really really enjoyed being destruction were spoils of pandaria and galakras. especially spoils is just great for destruction, lot of short-living adds perfect for chaosbolt and shadowburn snipping. Went all other fights as demo and did quite well with UVLS normal. Crit doom uptime is ok, still rrpm but absolutely viable.