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    Quote Originally Posted by Brusalk View Post
    Normal yeah. Heroic is debatable but still pretty bad.
    You would actually need roughly 85-90% uptime on 3 targets, with uptime scaling inversely with # of targets obviously, for it to even be competitive. Kind of silly
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    Use it on trash. Sometimes (rarely) it can proc after CB/SB, and your co-raiders will be pretty amazed when they look into recount.
    Otherwise, don't use it. Even on Gala. It can help you, if you've got problems with add-handling, but if you have problems with adds, you'll probably face huge pain on the last phase, and this trinket is next to useless on this phase (well, if you're very lucky, you'll get chain of procs, but this can happen with almost every other trinket).
    Though I guess you can try using HC WF FCoR for padding. If you're lucky, you can get huge results on Gala.
    If only this proc could be timed...

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    Just a quick question, BiS trinkets for a 570~?

  4. #3284
    Quote Originally Posted by masteryuri View Post
    Just a quick question, BiS trinkets for a 570~?
    PBoI unquestionably, KTT 99% of the time. Replace KTT with BBoY of same ilvl for farm fights where you stand still the entire time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazda View Post
    PBoI unquestionably, KTT 99% of the time. Replace KTT with BBoY of same ilvl for farm fights where you stand still the entire time.
    Thanks for the fast answer, I assume BBoY's proc make it better than KTT only if you use it mostly with chaos bolts?

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    Hi,

    I have two quick questions.

    Is it still optimal to Shadowburn under 20% for bosses? And is it advised to wait for trinket procs for DS as opposed to just popping it off CD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by masteryuri View Post
    Thanks for the fast answer, I assume BBoY's proc make it better than KTT only if you use it mostly with chaos bolts?
    PBoI is theoretically ahead, but that's under the assumption you're able to get Chaos Bolts off on 7 and 10 every time. Add fight mechanics and human error and KTT is probably best even for those who can hit 7 and 10 100% of the time without fight mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirenthral View Post
    Hi,

    I have two quick questions.

    Is it still optimal to Shadowburn under 20% for bosses? And is it advised to wait for trinket procs for DS as opposed to just popping it off CD?
    1) Yes, assuming you're not at the point where your non-backdrafted Chaos Bolts are sub ~1.2 seconds.

    2) Generally, unless you're waiting for a RPPM proc and not an ICD and that the ICD will be up (or is up) in the next few seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brusalk View Post
    PBoI is theoretically ahead, but that's under the assumption you're able to get Chaos Bolts off on 7 and 10 every time. Add fight mechanics and human error and KTT is probably best even for those who can hit 7 and 10 100% of the time without fight mechanics.
    You mean BBoY right? PBoI should be always BiS.

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    thx for a good guide but what will be BIS wep from SoO on N and HC? i use ask mr robot to help me out and he will say its BOA from HC

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    I have a question for Brusalk, or anyone who may have the answer. I am currently using a fully upgraded LFR Purified Bindings and a Toxic Totem on my Destro Warlock. I was reading the information for Yul'on's bit and it sounds really good. I've been doing some reading but it seems most folks are speaking in terms of flex/normal/heroic SoO trinkets. Unfortunately I don't have the time (right now) to get that type of raiding together so I settle for LFR. However, I would like to know if Yu'lon's Bite would be an upgrade for my DPS over either of the trinkets I currently have. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cnice View Post
    thx for a good guide but what will be BIS wep from SoO on N and HC? i use ask mr robot to help me out and he will say its BOA from HC
    HC Warforged BoA staff or HC Warforged staff from Sha of Fear. Both are pretty much even so whatever you get first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VonFrankenstein View Post
    I have a question for Brusalk, or anyone who may have the answer. I am currently using a fully upgraded LFR Purified Bindings and a Toxic Totem on my Destro Warlock. I was reading the information for Yul'on's bit and it sounds really good. I've been doing some reading but it seems most folks are speaking in terms of flex/normal/heroic SoO trinkets. Unfortunately I don't have the time (right now) to get that type of raiding together so I settle for LFR. However, I would like to know if Yu'lon's Bite would be an upgrade for my DPS over either of the trinkets I currently have. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
    It'd maybe be close to LFR KTT, but definitely not over PBoI.

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    BoA items cannot be Warforged
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    BoA items cannot be Warforged
    You sure? If so I learned something new today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brusalk View Post
    You sure? If so I learned something new today.
    Ahh, I should be more precise with my language. Warforged versions are not in the wowhead or wowdb databases. I don't know for a fact if this means they cannot be Warforged.

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    Whereas Warforged versions of the non-BoA gears are in those databases
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brusalk View Post
    - - - Updated - - - It'd maybe be close to LFR KTT, but definitely not over PBoI.
    Okay, thanks! So just to be sure, use PBoI always and Yu'lon's bite isn't worth 50k coins to replace KTT? Just making sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brusalk View Post
    You sure? If so I learned something new today.
    They come pre-warforged, at ilvl 580 instead of 572 when they drop. So yes and no. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarinth View Post
    They come pre-warforged, at ilvl 580 instead of 572 when they drop. So yes and no. :-)
    They come pre ' 2/2 upgraded'. Not pre warforged. They are ilvl 574 which is 566 + 8. You cannot upgrade them further and they cannot be warforged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrispotter View Post
    They come pre ' 2/2 upgraded'. Not pre warforged. They are ilvl 574 which is 566 + 8. You cannot upgrade them further and they cannot be warforged.
    This.
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