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    I think there might be something broken with your browser. It works perfectly fine for me.

    Tbh when i analysed my recent magaera kill with zumzumzum's tool i was surprised that even though i only used havoc for immolate and two felflames more than 30k dps from my 150 was just empty dmg. I know that immolate dmg is undervaluated by many ppl but this is just insane.
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    @Ravon: I guess you have a "small" screen resolution ? I will add an horizontal scroller tonight to avoid this problem, it probably gets cropped.

    @yalin: Do you have a link to your log ? 30k seems a lot if you just do that (+ Rain of Fire I guess ?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumzumzum View Post
    @yalin: Do you have a link to your log ? 30k seems a lot if you just do that (+ Rain of Fire I guess ?)
    Here is my log from that kill http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/j...?s=8094&e=8525 .
    And yes i try to keep rof on both heads as much as possible. Snce our 2nd tank is not geared very well we kill frost head as 5th.

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    It makes sense actually, since you must have almost 100% immolate uptime on the second head with Havoc every 25sec and Immolate+2FF.
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    I also struggel with a insane amount of "lost" damage
    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s...?s=6608&e=7044

    seems like RoF + Immolate make up for a hell lot of damage on the frozen head
    Havoc + Immo + 2 FF = usually full uptime on both targets
    PS: we are assigned to use cd´s only on the red head to kill it before the 3. debuff.

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    In the end how much useless DPS you do doesn't really matter, as long as it increases your useful DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumzumzum View Post
    In the end how much useless DPS you do doesn't really matter, as long as it increases your useful DPS.
    Havocing boss and using SB on dying adds on Horridon should be maximized I presume?

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    For maximum DPS, yes, for maximum usefulness : depends of your raid. If killing the adds is not a problem then yes, you will shorten P2 by havocing the boss. If you struggle in P1 with adds then perhaps you should cleave them instead.
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    Does anyone have a definitive BiS trinket list for all 3 specs? I really am struggling to find one apart from "suggestions" which I could kinda work out for myself .
    Mainly Im wondering how some of the mid-range trinkets compare to each other.
    For instance, LFR trinkets vs valor trinket (for each 3 specs), Lei Shen Trinket v LFr trinkets ( for destro).
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    Could havoc an add and get it down quicker as well. I'm not allowed to touch Horridon until adds are down. FML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizelda View Post
    Could havoc an add and get it down quicker as well. I'm not allowed to touch Horridon until adds are down. FML.
    Im looking forward to when my guild can safely farm horridon hc. We have killed it 4 times now but every week it takes at least 2-3 pulls before it dies and the enrage sometimes is tight if we had too many die before last phase. as such I am not allowed to whore on boss at all. But boy am I looking forward to whoring on horridon as destro Destro is already insanely good for horridon without whoring on boss.
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    Well if you are hitting the enrage maybe you should start "whoring" on the boss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizelda View Post
    Could havoc an add and get it down quicker as well. I'm not allowed to touch Horridon until adds are down. FML.
    That means other dps guys are watching porn instead of killing ads.
    True story.

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    That means other dps guys are watching porn instead of killing ads.
    Is that what Chrispotter meant by "whoring on boss" ?

    Everybody should kill ads anyway, they are annoying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumzumzum View Post
    Is that what Chrispotter meant by "whoring on boss" ?

    Everybody should kill ads anyway, they are annoying.
    Sort of.
    I just can't understand people who can't aoe with their class, why you can't just go simply ask smb who plays your class and spec and killed that boss already.
    Reason I can't find stable static, 13 tries for 3,5 hours on Horridon HM, most of the time RL kept watching stupid WoL instead of kicking asses of those who can't cleave for 100k dps and more. (I do understand that destrolocks have advantages but still, shadow priest is lower than me on 40-50k, epic.)
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    If I don't focus on getting adds down, we die. If I get adds down we win! Easy choice.

    I'm not saying I don't RoF and such, but I'm cleaving SB's onto adds rather than a boss with damage debuffs.

    If we were hitting enrage it would be different.
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    Oh okay, i did try 2 different browsers (firefox and ie) and I had other guildies having the same issue. I cant remembe the resolution of my screen I think it was 16xx by9xx i think it was. A side scrolling bar would be great Zum

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    Hi there very nice guide i would like to say.... Just wondering is GoSac doing good right now been looking around lately and have been seeing people using GoSac?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotasaur View Post
    Hi there very nice guide i would like to say.... Just wondering is GoSac doing good right now been looking around lately and have been seeing people using GoSac?
    Search the thread better. GoSac + Mastery is for AoE. Haste == Crit > Mastery for single target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyl View Post
    Search the thread better. GoSac + Mastery is for AoE. Haste == Crit > Mastery for single target.
    To be precise Gosac + mastery is for huge cleave fights that allows us to generate almost infinite embers. Or fights like jinrokh. Gosac does absolutly nothing to fnb and rof.

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