Poll: Which side will you choose to fight for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    Hmm... Seeing as I'm pretty anti-colonial (oh, the irony), I would have supported the patriots.
    However, it's always better to not have war at all, so...
    I think I'd hitch a ride on TradewindNQ's cart to Canada instead. But that wasn't a poll option.
    Should do it anyway, we have maple syrup, bitches, moose and all sorts of exquisite comforts for all discerning individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    Should do it anyway, we have maple syrup, bitches, moose and all sorts of exquisite comforts for all discerning individuals.
    I just hope I was white and had land so I could participate in this republic, not be one of those moochers who don't pay taxes and live on my land!
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    If I had a time machine I'd visit somewhere nicer than America circa 1776. Maybe Rome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantian View Post
    If I had a time machine I'd visit somewhere nicer than America circa 1776. Maybe Rome.
    Depends what you mean by nice. Unless you were rich and a Roman citizen, you would be visiting a real shit hole.

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    the obvious consideration is regarding where you lived, if you are somewhere where the British are firmly in power and subversive activity and thought would be easily squashed, then loyalist is the likely consideration, at least in so far as it most closely approaches neutrality, and neutrality and self-preservation are the most likely end goals

    anything beyond that requires any number of specific experiences and individual perspectives that are not easily replicated in a modern hypothetical environment

    certainly my background doesn't push me to either side since my ancestors were not British or early American but resided in other colonies further west or were here before European arrivals

    hypothetically, I would have been too young to be involved in the Seven Years War, but I suppose I might've been kicked out of Acadia and not been too keen on the British, it would make every lick of sense for me to be against them

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    I would choose the British if it weren't for the stupid costumes :/

    So I side with the Indians (excuse me, native Americans)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JfmC View Post
    I would choose the British if it weren't for the stupid costumes :/

    So I side with the Indians (excuse me, native Americans)
    Lots of the brave native Americans fought for the noble and righteous British Empire, though a few of the more villainous types fought for the mutinous colonists as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JfmC View Post
    I would choose the British if it weren't for the stupid costumes :/

    So I side with the Indians (excuse me, native Americans)
    Who were largely aligned with the British.
    Men!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    Ironically, I have relatives who died in the revolution, fighting against the British. They were probably rolling in their graves as I was typing that...
    According to your views of world domination, you should've stick to England and fight for the stability of the Empire!

  10. #50
    I think I would have been a loyalist personally as I don't think the Americans plight was anything extra special than anyone else's, but hard to be objective here. Was a very different world back then. Colonisation and Empires aren't exactly the nicest things by today's moral standards, but in those days it was pretty standard and if it wasn't the British it would have been the Spanish or French conquering the land. Given those 3 options I think most are quietly happy it was the British empire that succeeded. Perhaps if it had gone slightly further we could have avoided two world wars. Shame you can't run different scenarios into a computer and see what would have happened.

  11. #51
    Even tho I'm American born if I were to go back to that time I'd be a loyalist. During that time I feel like a sense of betrayal of country would of been huge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam the Wiser View Post
    Even tho I'm American born if I were to go back to that time I'd be a loyalist. During that time I feel like a sense of betrayal of country would of been huge.
    To be fair, the American Revolution was a very conservative one. Just 85 years or so previously England had had a revolution overthrowing a monarch because they considered them unjust, going against the principles of the nation and that the English people had a right to replace a corrupt leader with one they chose. They also initiated a Bill of Rights, to ensure no monarch could ever abuse the people again.

    It was that basis that the colonists rebelled. They didn't rebel because they were "American," they rebelled because they thought as Englishman they had the same rights as at any other time and that GB as it was then had gone "wrong" with a corrupt leader who didn't respect their rights etc.

    The American Revolution was ironically the most English of events.
    In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.
    Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
    This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.

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    From the current perspective, the patriots for sure. However, I imagine I'd be a loyalist if I were actually living at that time. It would depend heavily on my social position, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JfmC View Post
    I would choose the British if it weren't for the stupid costumes :/

    So I side with the Indians (excuse me, native Americans)
    WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH!
    Excuse me, sir, but these men are dressed for glorious conquest!

  15. #55
    Where did this song originate? I know it's a traditional American and British song (originally British?)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHA96clTq0k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidenx View Post
    Where did this song originate? I know it's a traditional American and British song (originally British?)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHA96clTq0k
    British, though possibly based on a Dutch original.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_British_Grenadiers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanto View Post
    Well America was trying to do away with taxes, and that woulda been enough for me to sign on.
    No we weren't.

    We were trying to do away with taxes without representation. It's the representation part we were pissed of about, or the lack thereof. Taxes are a necessary evil, a price to pay to live in a civilized world, unless one can discover a better way to fund a functional government. However, if we're all getting taxed, we all deserve fair representation to determine how to properly tax the populace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seta-san View Post
    why should I trade one tyrant three thousands miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away?
    It's easy to kill people when they're closer to you.
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  18. #58
    I'm American, but I'm fairly sure I would have been a loyalist, at least if you imparted me with the same values and beliefs I have now. Sure, there were some injustices, but I ultimately just don't care near enough about representation to risk my life.

    Really though, I probably would have just tried to see which way the wind was blowing. The important thing is being on the winning side.

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    Probably the British.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

  20. #60
    The question is rather pointless to be honest. Most people truly don't know the real reason behind the war and therefore view the liberty or death opinion as the reasoning when it was not. America started a war it could not win, it asked England for help, England sent the help and then America got all bent out of shape after the war that England taxed them and asked them to pay their fair share.

    Whether or not it WOULD have happened is irrelevant; Britain has given up its colonies so I feel America would have been no different but the way in which it was done and all the BS that follows how patriotic Americans were and how they fought this great tyrannical giant who taxed them without asking is absurd and one of the biggest historical falacies of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangfei View Post
    To be fair, the American Revolution was a very conservative one. Just 85 years or so previously England had had a revolution overthrowing a monarch because they considered them unjust, going against the principles of the nation and that the English people had a right to replace a corrupt leader with one they chose. They also initiated a Bill of Rights, to ensure no monarch could ever abuse the people again.

    It was that basis that the colonists rebelled. They didn't rebel because they were "American," they rebelled because they thought as Englishman they had the same rights as at any other time and that GB as it was then had gone "wrong" with a corrupt leader who didn't respect their rights etc.

    The American Revolution was ironically the most English of events.
    What? They rebelled against a leader they felt "Corrupt" because he asked them to pay their fair share. They would have been up on arms if Britain HADN'T sent troops and then when they were asked to pay for them they whined and moaned.

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