If they put their time into other content instead, I love this proposal. 5 mans are my least favorite partof the game, since Vanilla.
If it helps get rid of rabid, foul-mouthed forum posters who show up in quotes even when you ignore them, I'll give a double cheer.
Help control the population. Have your blood elf spayed or neutered.
Well, its not really THAT bad news, you know. Lets face truth: dungeons since Big Cata Nerf equals shit. What is the reason to waste money and devs time on releasing shit which main purpose will be mindless zergfest for zombified-press-aoe-and-go-afk-and-need-everything-in-process random lfd runners?
IMO, I'd like better if they add more old dungeons into Challenge modes. Challenge modes nowadays stand for what dungeons back in good old days were. And MoP ones are really not that good in terms of challenge design and things, basically they share the pattern of thrash packs uberness and boss shittyness, while I'd love to have something like Cata-v4.0 5 ppl dungeons for Challenge modes. Or maybe BC ones (oh, sweet Mechanar and Shattered Halls!).
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So no easy epics to ease the massive ilvl gap later on, odd. Wonder how people are supposed to get from leveling greens to ilvl 550 in order to enter the last raids. Weeks of dailies? Every LFR raid a few times?
Well...... this sucks for sure. I've actually always loved 5-man dungeons. I loved running them in vanilla, I loved running them in TBC (EXCEPT FOR U SHATTERED HALLS HEROIC), I loved running them in WotLK, and I.... didn't love them in Cata and MoP
Scenario's and LFR are the future now? They are both complete faceroll, there's no challenge whatssoever. Sure the MoP 5-mans were faceroll aswell, I'd much rather have some new interesting harder 5-mans. I can barely keep my eyes open in LFR, I always need to /follow people and afk my way to the end while I watch Youtube or such.
Blizzard makes it much easier for me to unsub, so far I'm unimpressed with 5.2 aswell. Inb4 ''go unsub nobody misses u bye'' or something, that would be too sad. I'm always very nice in WoW, I never ninja items, I'm a very good player that goes with speed trough every dungeon, with great DPS as tank. I even help people gearing up. If I should say goodbye, than I hope atleast the nice people will follow me.
Five man dungeons always tell a story, so apparently we won't get any new storylines besides the raids?
And yeah, we have scenarios. But Blizzard have said that all the new scenarios are only playable once. So there is no replayability there.
So I guess people are forced to keep doing the same dungeons over and over again for a year?
Best part of this thread is, before I clicked on it I already knew who would be bitching and what they would be saying.
1. Filling gear holes for raiders with what may not be the best piece, but better than what they've been holding onto from the previous tier.
2. Helping gear alts
3. Adding additional story to the current patch. (The 3 dungeons added with DS were some of the best story dungeons in years)
4. They can be a means of adding unique quest lines with powerful rewards (such as the battered hilt, Quel Delar chain)
LFR does not invalidate the need for additional 5 mans. And scenarios, for the most part, are a joke. Apparently just like how in Wrath, Blizz stopped adding side tier raids with the logic that we could do 10 and 25 of the same damn dungeon every week, now they consider LFR an "additional" option for time usage outside of the current progression tier.
Some people actually enjoy having the option of doing 5 mans and getting something out of them. This has been their most alt-unfriendly game since vanilla, and frankly, I don't know what the hell people do outside of raids once their main is geared and rep'd out if not work on alts. Additional 5 mans would have been a nice step to help that. Instead you have a choice: you can either grind the hell out of dailies for 2 months on each of your alts and do the further dummied down LFR or you can go back to the Cata model and just log in for your guild's raids.
Well, that officially marks my end of ever returning to WoW again. I thought the whole point of Pandaria was to offer various styles of different play to gear up the way you want to. What happened to that? Why are they now shifting back to the raiding model as the single core of the game?
EDIT: What's the point of gearing up via raids if you cant USE THAT GEAR for anything else other than raiding!?
Sad, sad day...
Meh. I don't care if i don't get raid gear equal itemlevel but i really can't see why i should be using same 463 ilvl weapon from expansion start to end. They should implement some system where later tier dungeon gear would not count up to itemlevel if they really fear that people use dungeons to hop tiers.
Though i'm already fed up to fact that if you don't raid even LFR in this expansion, you could fuck off. Ie. why the hell i get elder charms from dailies, why i can't use them on anything else than raiding? I hate to sound like your typical whiner but maybe it's just time for me to stop playing already.
Edit: or those new daily rep rewards: "wtf, some idiots are not running raids/LFR... ok lets put some valor rewards for them for pity"
Last edited by Skeletroll; 2013-03-09 at 05:05 PM.
Former unique snowflake
While in Violet Hold, this dialogue exchange happened:
Person: "I'm looking at your gear... why are you here? What can you possibly get out of these dungeons?"
Me: "FUN! ^_^"
Person: "hehe... I forgot about that!"
People like you forget that MMORPGs (and video games in general) are NOT JUST about min/maxing stats/gear - they're about having fun YOUR WAY. Wasn't that supposed to be the whole POINT of Pandaria?
MMORPGs were originally meant to be virtual worlds of varying playstyles that come together to form a community, helping each other in their own unique playstyle to help the other. They were NOT just about getting in big groups and killing things for upgrades.
To that end, I don't have to accept it. I can protest it... and, just like Cataclysm's failure justified my critisizms when I left it, I will do so again. Time will tell if I'm right or not... but honestly I don't care.
Because the reality is I don't have to Accept it. I can simply go play something else. Having these breaks from WoW has shown me that the grass is definitely greener on the other side - and I don't JUST mean other competing MMORPGs... I mean other GAMES. Other ways of playing... and doing other things.
I wouldn't mind if they added new dungeons but made the ilvl of the gear the same as the current ones. It's irritating trying to gear a few specs up like tanks and plate dps because there's only 1 set of legs that drops from heroics.