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Because not everyone enjoys Scenarios.
Because not everyone enjoys Battlegrounds.
Because not everyone can stop their daily routine to raid with 9/24 other people (random or with a guild).
Dungeons used to fill a small time space I had during the day. Now I just Pet Battle and occasionally do a dungeon.
So LFR allowed them to produce raids more quicly, but MoP will have one less raid tier than Wrath? (and Wrath had many single boss raids too that MoP doesnt have, as well as a huge amount of dungeons).
The choice is not that one. They have ALREADY MADE more raids and dungeons than in this expansion, the new thing that is stopping them from making it now is SCENARIOS AND DAILIES, not raids...
How can peolpe be fooled with this when we had raids and dungeons being produced at the same time for years in WoW? How can people buy the crap Blizzard is trying to sell when they say dailies and scenarios dont hold dungeons production?
In my opinion there is no contest either, dungeons vs daileis+scenarios gets a sure win for dungeons.
Raids and dungeons were always here in WoW, the new element stopping them from making more dungeons is that they want to launch new dailies and scenarios in each patch.
And if you really think scenarios dont require the same team than dungeons when they are a group content, with art, encounter mechanics and objectives, then you are blinded...
We cant have everything, but we can have quality dungeons AND raids being launched regularly, we know this because WE ALREADY HAD THAT IN WRATH, so dont try to say we cant have both.
You can keep being blind to facts, but that's a choice you are making.
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But as usual with Blizzard, it would be too late.
I actually really liked the early Cata dungeons. Some were really tough. I think the main reason those failed is because of the LFD system. Like you say it pairs random strangers together, with virtually no communication or general idea of an individuals skill level. They were indeed wipe fests with that type of group. However, they were quite fun when running with a group of friends. The game in the past was more about tight knit groups of players, where as now with LFR and LFD its about trying to include everyone but at the same time not creating any type of social bond or interaction.
I enjoy 5 man runs with my guildies that I can put together in 30 seconds. Just fun factor.
OMG 13:37 - Then Jesus said to His disciples, "Cleave unto me, and I shall grant to thee the blessing of eternal salvation."
And His disciples said unto Him, "Can we get Kings instead?"
Wrath had two yes count them TWO really good raids.
Ulduar and ICC and we had ICC for 1 year, this is what you want?
ToC? Really? You want more raids like ToC, this is what you want?
Naxx 25? Can you imagine the outcry on these very forums if T17 was BWL10 + 25? Can you?
No thanks I would rather have quality original raids over quantity and in a shorter timespan.
So in summary your wish for MoP is
1) To have a raid like ToC, probably the most hated raid in WoW history.
2) A Reworked Raid just retuned lets say BWL.
3) The last Tier to last at least 12 months.
No thanks I would rather have an original raid and they deliver it quicker.
If it means I get no new 5 mans then so be it.
They are able to make bigger quality raids more consistently at the cost of 5 mans as LFR replaces gear catch up, if you can't see that then you are the blind one.
I would love more 5 mans, I am realistic about it though and I don't think I can have everything.
Last edited by Quilzar; 2013-04-05 at 11:27 PM.
I have not seen T15 though I would not call the first tier all that good with Terrace being quite the let down for the last raid of a tier and being the most simplistic and bland in terms of fight mechanics. I would rank T14 slightly above T11. So far MoP just feels like quantity over quality for me.
Last edited by nekobaka; 2013-04-06 at 01:50 AM.