I stopped at "fresh 90 trying to raid". As a fresh 90, you are asking to be carried if you try to raid.
I geared up like so.
Get to 90 with 4000 honor 4000 justice. Buy 478 Malevelent. Spent what Valor I had on new 522 kneck. Its fast way to get your gear level up to reasonable level.
World of Dailies
I cant believe so many "blizz fans" support this style of gameplay.
Free-To-Play is the future.
And it has nothing to do with difficulty. It's tedious. LFR takes FOREVER and chances are you aren't getting a piece of gear and then that's it game over nothing more for the week. Nothing in WOW aside from heroic modes is truly challenging. It's just a boring grindfest of who can prop themselves up against the keyboard longer. It's a horrible design philosophy.
---------- Post added 2013-03-11 at 08:25 PM ----------
Wolk's progression model was the absolute best. You get 2 emblems per day from a heroic. 14 a week from dungeons. That's it. Then you got 5 more for the weekly raid. So that's a nice extra chunk leaving you at 19. From that point on the only limit to how many emblems you can earn was how many bosses you could kill. It made that currency feel valuable. Spending it felt good. Getting a new boss down felt like a win both because YAY progression but also because that was two more emblems more then you got last week. It was great.
Your options for gearing up for an ulduar raid were all of T7 (Maly, OS, and Naxx) VoA (two bosses, low chance for loot) Rep, and heroics.
You could get a small amount of gear through tokens, but valor at that point was what, token gloves, boots, belt, cape, offhand and legs? Far from what you'd get for T9's crazy catchup setup that followed all the way through cataclysm. (T9 had a 5-man that dropped purps, heroics were rigged up to give top-tier currency once per day, and a basic set of T9 was purchasable for said currency.)
Today, you've got Heroics (which will get you to 463) LFR (which'll get you to 480ish, which is the requisite for ToT LFR)
Heroics give VP, as many times as you want in a day (with a bonus for your first.) You have scenarios which can be used to gain VP through the LFG tools while queued for LFD. You need rep to access said VP gear, but there's few holes (weapons, pretty much), and they just had prices slashed (50% less VP for 5.0 gear, 25% for 5.1 gear). The new faction has a pretty solid set of intro gear too, if you want to go into that direction.
It's not a "jump in and go" system like cataclysm, where you could farm 3 loot dropping instances non-stop and be raid-ready in a weekend. If anything, it's More like Early wrath, and less like late wrath/late cataclysm.
They dont get that we are fed up with dailies (including dailies zones), and that focusing on one and only one mechanism is a bad thing.
---------- Post added 2013-03-12 at 08:44 AM ----------
Is it really that hard? I got 471 on my Rogue in a few days without even trying or doing a single daily or using a single Elder Charm. Seems like it would be jokes especially since you can get 10+ charms a week with minimal effort now.
Sure you don't get charms or rep or the fancy mounts but if you don't like it don't do it. Don't allow a fancy mount force you into something you don't like. There are alternatives now (rep from 1st dungeon, charms from pet battle, rep from farm and even a rep from the current raid) but the worst case scenario if you didn't like those either is to just let your VP cap and sit there. Even if you let your VP cap you can still get all the gear you needed out of dungeons, LFR or normals and still do the things you say you enjoy doing, it might be slower but it's your time and sanity that matter more.
As for using PVP gear, no one is saying to use nothing but PVP gear. The point of converting JP to HP is to cheese the ilvl to get you into LFR to get gear from there and replace your PVP pieces. Yes you could theoretically not get any loot from LFR but do you know anyone that it's actually happened to?
The quickest way to gear is to get into LFR. There are now 5 wings of the old raid and 1 wing of the new (open today). For a fresh 90 you can reach the 460 to start running the first wing of LFR on the same day or a couple days after dinging 90 using methods people have already posted over and over again (LFD, Sha Boots, 522 neck and converting JP into HP). You can also be honoured with any rep in 2 days so you should be able to buy enough gear for a while and then STOP DOING DAILIES. It's like people keep hitting themselves with a mallet but instead of stopping just sit there blaming someone else for supplying them with a mallet.
I am fucking fine with 463. Because guess what? I went from 450 to 473 in 2 days! How? I know how to play the game. If you are stuck at a low ilevel, you're doing it wrong. 476 gear on the AH? Ow noez, 1k a piece. Whatever shall I.. ow wait.. done and raid ready. So please shove your self righteous whatever you want to call it. And read a post normally ok?
This is with:
2x 5 man run (SM armory+Library and Siege of blabla temple)
1x every LFR wing.
So no, it's not hard.
Now, there is a check but the check is generous. Asking for mostly heroic dungeon gear for raiding is not being obnoxious. With LFR, it is even easier do the raid instances, at much easier level, without joining a guild and dedicating to their raid times. Some do not consider LFR as true raiding but that is not the point. The fact is more people are now able to enter and do some raiding than before.
One change I like to see them incorporate is allow LFR in both Normal and Heroic mode in addition to is current level.
The tabard rep change is annoying but make senses. The old systems, which was super convenient, did not make sense. Earning rep with a factor should mean doing work for them, not wearing their tabard and kill some bosses in a dungeon which they don't care about it.
Most casual friendly expac was Cata. ANYONE could raid, gear was easy to get for all 10 alts, dungeons were just cruise control for easy JP, and everyone could just log in and wait for a queue to pop.
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