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    March 12 Class Hotfixes, ToT LFR Open, ToT Heroic Progression

    March 12 Class Hotfixes
    Look for more information on the ToT RPPM trinkets soon!
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
    Lead Systems Designer Greg Street (Ghostcrawler) wanted to give notice of several class hotfixes that went live last night along with the reasoning behind those changes.

    Hotfixes:


    We’re happy with the relative power of Arcane, Fire and Frost mages in PvE to each other, but all three specs are below where we want them. We were hoping that once groups got past the first few 5.2 raid encounters that benefit a lot from multi-dotting that we’d see mage DPS climb, but it’s not there yet. We don’t want to change rotations or force players to change specs, so we wanted a relatively passive change.

    We decided to buff the bombs because it affects all three specs relatively similarly and is as close to a passive form of damage as mages have. Had we buffed the cast-time nukes, the risk is that mages would lose even more DPS on high movement or high multi-dot fights, which wasn’t our intent. If these buffs aren’t sufficient, we will happily make more, but we’d rather make a few buffs a few times in a row rather than over buff then have to nerf it back down.


    We want the dot specs to do well in multi-dot scenarios, but Affliction, Demonology and Shadow were doing too well on multi-dot fights and are still quite competitive on non-multi-dot fights. Balance druids, so far, are where we want them to be.


    We’re keeping a close eye on death knights. Frost and Unholy are both performing really well, but Frost was higher than we wanted during cleave-type scenarios. They will still be quite good at cleaving even with this change.

    Tank DPS is a difficult metric to measure because some tanks care a lot about their DPS, and work to maximize it, while others are content to fill the more traditional tank role of worrying about survivability and boss control, and pay less attention to their DPS. Therefore, it’s challenging to analyze logs and determine whether you’re seeing the full potential of tank DPS or not. For now, we think warrior and DK tank DPS was a little low, so we took steps to adjust it.

    Remember, it’s not a goal that every spec do exactly equally well in every possible encounter, and in fact we think that would be boring. We just don’t want things to get so extreme that certain specs feel like they aren’t meaningfully contributing to the group’s efforts. All of this means that raid performance is a somewhat subjective call and we’d like to ask that you keep that in mind as you offer your feedback.

    Throne of Thunder LFR Opens Today
    The first three bosses of Throne of Thunder become available on Raid Finder difficulty today! You can find their encounter journal and loot tables on the pages linked below, and boss guides over at Icy Veins.

    It is worth noting that the bridge trash isn't as bad as it is in normal difficulty and the difficulty is significantly lower than it was on the PTR during earlier testing.





    Throne of Thunder Heroic Progression
    Blood Legion has defeated the first two bosses in Heroic 25 man difficulty and Gag Reflex has the first boss down in Heroic 10 man difficulty. You can keep up with the kills on Manaflask, our forum thread, and WowProgress.

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    Trinkets appear to be fixed.

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    Them heroic kills already :l damn!

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    mage buffs and warlock/priest nerfs

    gee, didnt see this coming!

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    idk if wowprogress is broken but it shows BL having down the second boss in 10m herioc

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    That 40% buff to frost bomb is going to be pretty insane in pvp.

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    straight 7k nerf to affliction single target with corruption for me :/

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    Need a "how do do bridge trash" video or uber nerf.. That shit is stoooooooooooooooooopid to do with lfr.

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    The mage buffs are a bullshit way to buff our damage. It doesn't bring all three specs out of the bottom, keeps Living Bomb as the garbage spell it is, and will break PvP. I predict they'll revert it and continue to have no idea what they're doing with mages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haiimjoe View Post
    idk if wowprogress is broken but it shows BL having down the second boss in 10m herioc
    maybe to hard in 25man ?

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    As if Mists in general didn't already destroy Affliction multi-dotting with the Malefic Grasp mechanic.

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    Shadow priests are competitive on non-multidot fights. That is a problem why? I thought they wanted us to be competitive on single target fights? Not like we were #1 by 50k dps.

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    priest and aff were both fine in single target nerfing their multidot really hurts single target our raid just lost over 20k dps in 10 man

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    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    Trinkets appear to be fixed.
    Elaborate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Shadow priests are competitive on non-multidot fights. That is a problem why? I thought they wanted us to be competitive on single target fights? Not like we were #1 by 50k dps.
    It isn't a problem. It says "are competitive" as in after the dot nerf.

    Meaning they lowered the "too high" multi-dots without breaking single target so all is fine for us =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by haiimjoe View Post
    idk if wowprogress is broken but it shows BL having down the second boss in 10m herioc
    It very often shows 10 man first. Enough people need to log out for armory updates and then WoWProgress has to update. They did it in 25.

    Quote Originally Posted by moogogaipan View Post
    Need a "how do do bridge trash" video or uber nerf.. That shit is stoooooooooooooooooopid to do with lfr.
    My group just walked across, it was fairly easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsz View Post
    Elaborate?
    GC talked about changing how the RPPM trinkets were proccing. Either I was getting absurdly lucky or it was proccing correctly today while I raided.

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    That nerf is -5% to demo single target, which is a huge swing. Bring their single target up more, and then you an take out the multidotting.

    They're shooting from the hip with these changes. Last week spriests +25% on SW:P, this week its reverted. Mages rebuffed, when they were just fine. +40% damage on frost bomb? That will completely break PvP.

    Give us some warning, and we'll give blizz the obvious ramifications they seem to miss...

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    wow is dead when blood legion is leading!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bany View Post
    wow is dead when blood legion is leading!
    you have to consider heroics for EU dont start till tomorrow.

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