First off the "isle" as you call it has 476 BELTS for sale. Belts do not constitute a gearing mechanism.
Secondly, you cannot get an "infinite" amount of coins and furthermore those coins constitute a winning roll that you may or may not need at best 20% of the time.
So, what you're really saying is that the "catch-up" mechanism is one in which you run 5.0 LFR over and over and over so you can spend coins that you can only get in abundance during your once a week treasure run to maybe get an item that you can maybe use.
OR you can grind BGs to get guaranteed 476 gear in whatever slot you chose when you chose it.
And finally your last sentence doesn't make any sense at all. Blizzard doesn't want to make new 5 mans not because people get bored of them, but because they don't want to spend resources on it and think that they can keep most of their subs by stating that LFR is an acceptable catch-up mechanism. My view is that it isn't and they will pay the price in subs for thinking they can get away with it.
The difference is, if I'm wrong, it doesn't cost me a penny. If they are, it's millions of dollars down the tubes.
You wont get killed constantly, but you will probably die more than you deserve, and it will take a lot more time than it should.
And yes, the isle has 476 for sale, how does that not align with what i was saying?
To get your "endless amount of charms" you need to be really lucky and go to the isle frequently on your undergeared char.
If you are not lucky, you will only get 8 charms (a bad luck thunder king scenario) which is not endless.
Easy to obtain epics constitute as a gearing mechanism.
Rng gripes have no place in an argument. Everyone deals with the same rng as you do, you just didn't do it as long.
Do you think Blizzard is some evil company that's just trying to treat their players like crap? They don't want to spend resources on it because people get bored of them really fast. Are you still enjoying the 5 mans mop shipped with? If not, you're proving their point.
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Luck and rng has always been a thing, why do you think you're special enough to get systems that go around it?
This is a worthless comment that addresses nothing. The point is they have added so many boring, grindy, obstacles to gearing that no one in their right mind would want to participate in them. And look at the sub numbers falling. What a shock, people don't want to pay $15 a month for a fucking chore.
They already had a system in place that rewarded you for putting effort into getting gear. It's not like in Wrath heroics you hit a button a got gear. I remember running those dungeons tons of times and having a blast doing it. Then I went into a raid and earned my raid gear just like anyone else.
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Because the experience I had hit 80 is so much better then the experience anyone has hitting 90 is this fucking waste of an expansion, that is why. That is my point
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Normal mode old raids is the way to gear up, not LFR. You need gear to do normal raids? Go heroic dungeons, even 450 gear is enough to do 30k DPS to be able to clear mogushan vaults and heart of fear.
I see there only 1 problem, people don't want to do old raids because they are too late to do it in "first wave"
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But again, I have to wonder why that matters. Is someone forcing you to run the LFR? Are you upset people would rather use LFR than join a raiding guild? It shouldn't matter to anyone but the person running LFR about the "quality" of the content they get to see. Honestly, I wish they would open LFR up for all the pre-MoP stuff too. Some people just can't raid 2 nights a week 6 hours at a time for Normal/Heroic progression. With LFR, these players (and there are a ton of them) have the chance to raid on their own time, and not the clock of some raid guild.
I think the only reason hardcore raiders hate LFR is because LFR is dipping into their spare pool of raiders. With LFR, people no longer have to beg a guild to let them run with them. Now they can just queue up whenever. I'm guessing if more guilds hadn't been so die hard and elitist about stuff, the LFR probably would not exist. But those casuals who want to see the raids without feeling the undo peer pressure from hardcores got exactly what they asked for... and now "raiders" are upset that they have no recruiting pool left.
Reread what you posted, it makes no sense. You are saying the experience was better, but your reasoning was because you had to farm for gold to get epic flying and you didn't have professions feeding you gold. And somehow that was a response to what I was saying about easily being able to get gear to do LFR in this expansion?
I do not follow because you aren't making any sense.
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If you could buy the 5.0/5.1 valor gear with Justice Points it wouldn't be as bad.
My main problem is that it requires you to queue at least 5 times to do all of the previous LFR's. At least. Usually I have to queue multiple times to finish 2 or 3 of those which means 7-8 queues. That's probably around 6 hours of just waiting to run these raids on my alts so that I can gear them up.
Discouraging to play alts to say the least.
And fairly this is what I said the problem was. It's no longer the initial gearing to get into LFR, that part is a pittance of gold or minute amount of time. It's just moved the sliding scale up to intro tier. And possibly when the next set comes out it will move the intro tier up one more notch.
That's called having a catch up mechanic. It might not be perfect, but it's honestly not as bad as it was when the game launched. I wouldn't be playing again if it was still in the state it was at launch. I got burned out in 2 weeks and was ready to go. Now it feels much more leisurely and available, instead of forced and punishing.
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