I don't see why people are grumbling about this based on patchwerk sims (which represent none of the fights this tier) when actual logs show us doing well.
We still have the shadowform and SW:I buffs, so we're still up on 5.1.
I'll go further on my point also that Sims are just bad news. I can already see sims are an obsession too far in the community. They show no proof or a real environment whatsoever yet people swear by them. It's gearscore v2 but a lot worse.
Edit: And another top 50 west guild same fight, spriest lands 14th place.
I'm not a huge advocate of simcraft much less obsessed with it, so don't just throw me in that category because I called one person out on generalizing shadow priests as being "just fine" based on a single parse on a fight with so many variables (as most heroic fights are).
I was just wanting to point out that it seems shadow priests were actually viable for being a regular part of top 10 dps in 25m raids prior to the SW:P nerf. Now we're back where we've always been, an average at best dps class that has very little utility.
Last edited by Solariis; 2013-03-13 at 07:55 PM.
I am sorry for the insanity users out there, but i realy hate it for pvp... i cant stand still for sucha long time. I hate it.
..eat that disarm( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Sorry i should have made it clear. I wasn't aiming the Simcraft comment at you. It was a general comment.
So. We have two logs here. The first has a Shadow priest in the middle and near the end. Second is low granted. The thing is, the same as you dismissed the other poster, i could dismiss this. I won't though because anyone could do that all day and we would get nowhere. However i'm talking about priests in a wider arc. I'm not saying Spriests are amazing Single target. I'm saying overall it's not like you will get benched. We've seen how strong Spriests are with multiple targets. Now the fight you linked is like the most Single target fight in the Raid right? So it doesn't really go to show the usefulness of the class.
On a broad scale i see so much complaining when in fact the big factor in everything is mostly the person's ability. I agree with GC when he say's it would be boring for every class to be the same on every encounter. Priests may be weaker on Single Target but they more than make up for it on multiple targets. This is not to say Blizzard shouldn't try to bring single target in line. They should, but people should just have some patience.
Is a little bit funny, because shadow priest are complaining about single target dps for at least 5 months and Mages, 1 week.
Another thing, blizzard said is hard to balance spriest pvp and pve and make a great buff for frost bombs with a "deal less damage against a player character" line. I think to myself why they did not made this 5 months ago with mind flay?
Instead of 10k hitting 8 k now realy, it's okey to live with it tho.
I just hope we could see something done to the mobility tier as they call them.
For pvp atleast, not that it would happen but I can dream right?
..eat that disarm( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It's all very ridiculous. It was a simple change to have DP do all DoT damage and remove it;s burst, and maybe add haste scaling to MB. Done, and done. Blizzard, and esp. Ghostcrawler, is incompetent.
So i went and took a look at the other logs you posted showing how bad we might be. The priest who is 14th place in dps on his raid is using FDCL and ToF for a single target fight with burn phases. Do I need to explain why his DPS was lowest? He was also using Divine star on a fight where we can often be >20 yards from the boss. Another single target DPS loss.
The first priest you linked who was in the middle of the pack in his raid used the same talents as me. MF:I, PI and Halo. Looking at the fight tho he used PI 3 times compared to my two times. Both fights lasted about 5:35 meaning the most you could use PI was 3 times if used on the pull or within 40 seconds. The fact that he was able to use it three times leads me to believe that he did not line his PIs up with the 40% damage buff you get during the fight. This can lead to a major DPS loss.
A great tool to use when comparing yourself with others on similar fights.