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  1. #21
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    Rogue fundamentally is a good class. We do great in DPS in PvE and have tons of Control capability in PvP.

    With the recent 5.2 patch we've gained a good deal of mobility and burst wrapped into one talent (Cloak and Dagger)

    Our durability in PvP remains just good enough to be competitive.

    We scale with gear a little too tightly (just like Warriors) and the combo point / energy system is a bit sluggish imo.

    Still, I enjoy my rogue very much
    Last edited by Vyreks; 2013-03-19 at 08:28 PM.

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    I leveled my rogue to max at the end of cata (like hit 85 with three weeks left) and told used its be my main in MoP. That didn't happen but I just finally hit 90 and I'm liking it a lot. It's really a fun class all around and I like the idea of rogue, just the concept is pretty awesome.

    I'd play one if I were you. I'm on my phone but I think the other option was Mage? I'd pick rogue over Mage any day but all I play / have played is melee.
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    Rogue's issues in my eyes:

    - Energy and it's dependence on haste; class feels broken at low gear and OP at high gear
    - Potentials for unintended burst
    - Shifts into passive damage to compensate for above
    - Specialisation uniqueness or lack thereof
    - Combo points dictating the lion's share of your abilities and transferability of this resource to new targets
    - "Flavour" in the form of aesthetics
    - "Flavour" in the form of class design
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    I mainly PvP, but I do like to PvE a bit if my friends in progressed guilds take me along for a ride, so I've got atleast SOME basis for saying the following:

    PvE rogue is very straightforward. Very easy rotation, no big tricks to pull good numbers. And I quite like that, to be honest. Playing my rogue in PvE feels a bit relaxing, from the frantic nature of PvP. It gives me time to look around and hopefully not stand in a pool of huge lava that will kill me. And that I can alt-tab out to read the paper between Mutilates really works for me, actually.

    PvP rogue is the most fun I know in WoW, closely followed by resto shaman and disc priest PvP. Lots of buttons to press, with an answer to almost all things that are thrown at you and/or your team. Poisons, Shiv effects, Blinds, Gouges, Deadly Throws, Smoke Bomb, Disarm, Shadow dance with massive damage and Saps out of Blinds and all kinds of small things that make or break a good rogue.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    Heya incin!! Didn't know you quit wow because of rogue and i don't blame you, are you playing something else??
    MMO-wise, no. I probably won't touch any other MMO's for the time being. Simply too time-consuming and they never offer you the rewarding "ending" other game-types do. WoW was my first "real" MMO experience, and it gave me my fill of it - I no longer crave it. I only continued playing it for as long as I did because of my guild and the friends I had in it. Raiding with them was fun because of the social aspect, the game itself simply wasn't enjoyable anymore.

    Long story short; server was dead, guild had to break up, people split apart (all in good spirits), and I took the opportunity to step down from a game I no longer enjoyed. No drama, no hard decisions, just felt like the right thing to do.

  6. #26
    Playing my rogue was the funnest I've had in PvP. Then MoP came................................................

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3athsting View Post
    If u want my opinion rogues are even more stagnating than mages, they haven't really changed that much since i started playing rogue in vanilla, except that now CP builders hit like a wet fish, they are more squishy and half of their dmg output comes from passive sources (autoattack and poisons).

    Lol yeah, when I'm I'm in lfr there's usually a few rogues near too, and their top 3 abilities are usually just auto attack and poisons.

    ---------- Post added 2013-03-20 at 03:50 AM ----------

    I really enjoy rogue in pvp, a really great class with a lot of tools, but I just can't stand them in pve, I've tried raiding on my rogue, just so boring to play In pve
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    The saving grace for the class in PvP is stealth because of how fun it is.

    However i'm not too excited about this whole requierment to have bleeds and slice and dice up on targets. It's frankly really tedious to have to put up slice and dice, rupture and maybe recuperation.

    Rogues used to be all control and bursting with finnishers. That was FUN. Using all globals to CC people and to set up bursts. Now it's all like: Do i have SnD up? Ok now i need to rupture. Then we start doing damage and stun then we are out of energy.

    The short cooldown on Shadow Dance at least makes SUB fun to play.

  9. #29
    I've been playing my rogue since I started playing WoW (which was in BC). They are the most boring class in PvE hands down. Boring in raids, boring in dungeons... I don't even PvE anymore because its so boring. PvP on the other hand is a whole other story, they are very fun in arenas/battlegrounds and also viable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolvanish View Post
    Playing my rogue was the funnest I've had in PvP. Then MoP came................................................
    Then 5.2 came and its fun again.... We can kill stuff now lol.

  11. #31
    Ive played my rogue since the end of BC, we have our ups and downs each xpac and patch, last patch I wanted to just punch a baby, but this patch its looking good

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by kilj View Post
    Ive played my rogue since the end of BC, we have our ups and downs each xpac and patch, last patch I wanted to just punch a baby, but this patch its looking good
    dayum you are some mean rogue ! punching babys in the face
    the ultimate answer's to all rogue issues :

    -Rogues might still be dealing with the changes to combo points {2014}

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Koji2k11 View Post
    dayum you are some mean rogue ! punching babys in the face
    Well come on now, who said anything about the face....

  14. #34
    Let's just nip the baby-punching jokes in the bud right here.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Mugajak View Post
    Let's just nip the baby-punching jokes in the bud right here.
    aww c'mon its just joking. sometimes you need to have fun too.

    ontopic: i think every rogue thinks deifferently some who play their rogues since vanille either have quit or still play some who started later play rogues. in my personal opinion rogue mechanics seem so outdated nothing new every expansion just one pvp/pseudo pve skill no new animations nothing. nothing is flashy just very basic hacking and slashing your opponent. think most of us made their opinion clear already some like the playstyle of roges some dont,i think its time for serious rework
    the ultimate answer's to all rogue issues :

    -Rogues might still be dealing with the changes to combo points {2014}

  16. #36
    I would not commit to main changing to a rogue without first getting to max level and playing it a bit at 90. Only having experience up to level 50 is not enough. Find out what it is like in raids and pvp at max level, and then decide if the rogue is right for you. Otherwise, you might as well be choosing a class at random to be your new main.

    I recently main changed from mage to rogue myself. So, I can empathize with the OP's dissatisfaction with the mage class at the moment. However, I was running my rogue in alt raids all last expansion, and can easily say that I am as comfortable playing the rogue as I have ever been with my mage. The rogue just feels more fun to me now, and I feel that I am performing better because of that.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryme View Post
    Rogue's issues in my eyes:

    - Energy and it's dependence on haste; class feels broken at low gear and OP at high gear
    - Potentials for unintended burst
    - Shifts into passive damage to compensate for above
    - Specialisation uniqueness or lack thereof
    - Combo points dictating the lion's share of your abilities and transferability of this resource to new targets
    - "Flavour" in the form of aesthetics
    - "Flavour" in the form of class design
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    And I want my Lightning Reflexes, Improved Armor and Recup back.

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    Most rogues I see in PVP are complete shit and easy to kill. Good rogues are OP and can kill you pretty easily. The rotation is horribly boring and dull.

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    I find that the level of control that I have while playing sub in pvp is completely unmatched by any class. Leveling can be a blast (the world pvps) , but it will also teach you how boring a rogue can be in pve (my pve is pretty much transmog runs, but dem ZG daggers are hawt so what can ya do? ) Also once you gain the skill on a rogue Its almost comical, your enemies go from saying "hahaha lets kill that rogue" to, "holy fuck that side of the bg is no mans land bro don't go,it lives there!!!!..."

    You will need to work at it, and gearing a rogue can be very frustrating, probably like gearing a mage was. They however are truly rewarding to master.


    Also there is a bit of buff management such as...
    As sub not having slice n dice up as a sub rogue can make or break you.
    As assassination not having rupture up can make or break you.
    Combat is probably the most forgiving and also the most boring.
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  20. #40
    rogues are very gear-dependet. not only that they don't do good dmg with low gear it's also no fun playing in low gear. it feels slow and mindnumbing. when you get some gear it gets better and better. i personally dont like combat but sub and mutilate are nice to play. however, if you like classes that are GCD-locked, rogue is no class for you.

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