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  1. #41
    Too much trash is more annoying than difficult trash, although too much difficult trash is also annoying.

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    It's "meaning" is to be the guards/servants of the bosses we fight, I know its a scary thought that there may be alittle "rp" dropped into this mmoRPg but hey what are you gonna do.

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    heaven forbid an entire raid instance can't have time consuming trash to make it feel like you're going through a massive raid like ToT.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by dkdk View Post
    Fuck no, I quit raiding in the second wing of ICC because of the ridiculous time commitment of doing progress on 10 and 25 every week.

    ToGC was the perfect length for the multiple raid lockout setup. ICC caused them to switch over to the single lockout, if it was that way from the beginning I probably wouldn't have gotten so burnt out.
    Because god forbid you actually make a choice not to do things that burn you out. Maybe this game would have a lot more options for a lot more players if so many of them didn't rely on Blizzard to tell them how to play the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanzul View Post
    Because god forbid you actually make a choice not to do things that burn you out. Maybe this game would have a lot more options for a lot more players if so many of them didn't rely on Blizzard to tell them how to play the game.
    Hmm weird, I think that's exactly what I said I did.... Your comment was both thoughtful and productive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkdk View Post
    Hmm weird, I think that's exactly what I said I did.... Your comment was both thoughtful and productive.
    ya u won...he didn't actually comprehend what he read that you wrote

    OT: I'm kinda of the mindset that the trash is ok. As was already mentioned.....A)with gear it'll get WAY quicker anyway and B) finding the optimal way to clear/pull/spawn the least amount of trash in a somewhat sprawling area is kind of the fun and adventure. First time down to Meg took much longer than any subsequent time will (hopefully). Not pulling extra stuff on the way to the bird isn't tough but requires being somewhat aware....again, it'll be faster next time. The stuff still drops some gear and as the weeks go by it just becomes more of a game than anything. I'm OK with it.
    Last edited by SirReal; 2013-03-21 at 04:34 AM.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Meleti View Post
    Too much trash is more annoying than difficult trash, although too much difficult trash is also annoying.
    The real reason people are complaining is because THIS trash, especially the bridge and the snails.. eat DPS. Normally, only tanks have to worry about some minor mechanisms from trash pulls, now you have dps having to actually pay attention during trash.

    That is why it is suddently ´difficult and too much´

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    The real reason people are complaining is because THIS trash, especially the bridge and the snails.. eat DPS. Normally, only tanks have to worry about some minor mechanisms from trash pulls, now you have dps having to actually pay attention during trash.

    That is why it is suddently ´difficult and too much´
    In my opinion the challenge is welcome if it's served together with rewards. In this case the reputation gain persisting for more than neutral, even if diminished.

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  9. #49
    Tedious trash tends to get nerfed fairly promptly. See: Ultraxion.

  10. #50
    Yeah, I especially hate how much time it takes to kill the trash. I'd rather just bulldoze through easy trash than spend precious raid time on trash. What is the point of having as much trash as there is this tier...?

  11. #51
    ..I can tell a lot of people here didn't do TBC raids.

  12. #52
    Lol we got 5 thrash epics so far 1 thunderforged in 10 man. and we only killed 4 bosses so far

  13. #53
    I hate the trash before the Hydra boss, the room is so massive and wasted with some boring trash and lots of it.

    Also thrash != trash.

  14. #54
    First week it was new, unexpected and fun. Second just annoying. Third week boring. What will it be in next few weeks? Look for me like pain in the ass.

    We usually get some items from trash (e.g. useless intelect plate bracers without spirit ;]) but that does not change the fact that it just is boring. And over time it will only get worse.
    Last edited by dzidek; 2013-03-21 at 11:36 AM.

  15. #55
    I for once I'm in love with the trash in ToT. It gives a sense of immersion unlike raids like ToC or DS.

    Also, BT comes to mind.

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    Seems someone never played TBC at its days. SSC for example says ''Hi''
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    The trash is awesome, nom nom snails and the windy sections especially - it's a raid, not a boss spawner.
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  18. #58
    I liked the snails once we figured out what they do, and I liked the bell room once we figured out the path of least resistance through. The wind room was a pain and a horror the first night, but we're getting into a rhythm with it and now I'm getting to the point where I can laugh through it. Although I do think it would be better with 3 banshees per bridge, so that you have a single pull and a double pull.

  19. #59
    There really isn't that much trash. If people clear every mob before Megaera then that is a problem but you can skip most of it. Same goes with Ji-Kun trash if people step on spider webs, and bones, and thus pull extra Spiders and Worms then yea it's a lot. Besides raid instances without trash are boring.

  20. #60
    the trash over all seems to differ a lot.

    The trash up till the first boss is quite fast.
    then from fist boss till horridon is the famous bridge of doom not much trash perse but it takes quite some time.
    from horridon till council god I hate that trash to many big packs and it feels just windy and long.
    from council till tortos its pretty much non existence (3 bat packs I believe)
    from tortos till the hydra boss there's lots of trash but you can skill like most of it and I think that one goes pretty fast actually.
    from hydra till the bird boss (its quite a trek) but the snails of doom make up for it its just freaking hilarius XD

    Guess overall it seem to variate a lot between bosses I actually like it.

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