Does it Bother You how Most Humans are Racist, but are Viewed as the Alli Master-race

[ijffdrie]

Banned? No. Rare. The Orsc weren't sued as slaves. They weren't used for labor. They were too dangerous. They were guarded. Thrall is one of the few Orcs who actually fought...which is why he was noteworthy.

The orcs indeed weren't used, but I doubt it was because they were dangerous. After all, ogres and trolls were used, and by their description they didn't seem too rare. I think that the lethargy may have had more to do with it.

Also, there were mentions of other orcs used as slaves. There was mention of the bath-filling orc in Lord of the Clans and pooped-on orc in Cycle of Hatred. Some days I wish I could remember names a little better.

So? The orcs were tricked into battle, but how they went about waging war was their own business. Even the mildest Orc relished battle and literal taste of blood. You should read Rise of the Horde. The Orcs were savage even without warlock magic and the Blood Curse as excuses.

I'll try and pick it up from the local library whenever they have it again.

[Korgoth]

Is it racist if it's the truth, the Humans are superior to the other races. In numbers, organization, and capability.

[Immitis]

i dont think theres anywhere near enough cases of humans disliking high elves to say they are racist as a majority to them in fact according to the rpgs like 25% of stormwinds population is half elves not to mention look at the kirin tor offensive, if that isnt the biggest support playable high elf fans have had in awhile i dont know what is, you cant step three feet without hitting 50 high elves in the face over there.

as for draenei? as much as the draenei dont like it THEY DO look like light skinned demons. no racism towards gnomes or dwarves that i see, some towards worgen but that seems more to do with them just not generally liking gilneans and thinking they are self centered which pre cata they completely were. night elves? its debatable but night elves are pretty racist too. pandaren? i see no racism there either in fact id say that outside of the original alliance races (high elves humans dwarves gnomes) they have been the most respected and easily integrated race to ever join the alliance, however that may have more to do with the pandaren who leave the isle being the most curious of the pandaren and most willing to adapt and learn.

horde races? doesnt seem to be much racism towards goblins other than the typical "they'll take your money" which is true, doesnt seem to be much around tauren, trolls probably have the 2nd biggest amount of racism but in the humans defense how are the humans supposed to know the darkspear are the ONLY tribe of trolls who dont practice cannibalism and dont hate humans more than anything, you have to remember most trolls have a "kill human and elf on sight" policy so its understandable there would be a hard time adjusting to that. the forsaken? well how would you react to a zombified version of your family? probably freak out.

as for the orcs? well the orcs came through to azeroth and raped, killed, and pillaged pretty much everything they could get their hands on, we know they were influenced by demon blood, we know there are good orcs now, we see both sides of the story, the humans of azeroth arent us, are their misconceptions about the orcs wrong? yes, are they somehow bad people for thinking that way about them or somehow wrong for allowing that picture of them to form in their mind? no and anyone whos saying that if aliens invaded earth killed and raped your family and then was like "hey were cool nao cuz just give us x county and leave us alone" and you would be like "k cool just dont drink meh juice boxes" you're a liar

[JimmyHellfire]

It has been proven time and time again that Humans in WoW are racists. From Garithos disrespecting the Blood Evles and causing them to join the Horde, to nearly every Human leader having a false sense of superiority over every different race around him/her. Truth be told, the Alliance would be nowhere without the high/blood elves, there would be no Jaina Proudmoore and there would be no Alliance because the Horde would have wiped them out. Because without the elves teaching them magic, they would just be Orcs except with less brainpower, strength, and green skin.

I don't know, I think you're reading way too much in all of that. I never approached the whole Warcraft theme that way, it's just a game, after all. I'm here for the entertainment and don't have to connect everything to real life topics and grievances.

[Nyteyes]

Other. This is a bad poll and the OP is obviously biased.

^Agreed. I think the OP needs to do more research and read move of the novels, comics, lore in general and re-examine WoW's history.

[Haven]

Not racist, even though they have quite a bunch of examples of superiority towards various forms of "savages" (orcs, trolls) or "wretches" (undead, blood elves). But the second part, that they are a "master race", is absolutely correct.

[Trassk]

See, here's a guy that ALMOST tricked me into thinking this was a Salandrin thread, because the phrasing of the title was spot on.

However, the actual context is anti-alliance, and not anti-horde, so I knew right there we had an imposter!

I think whats happened is Saladrin has posted so many anti orc - anti horde threads, it finally formed a kind of animus from it, with its own sentience, and yet because all the anti horde/orc was sucked into saladrin, the animus focuses against the alliance.

Yeah, this threads as silly as saladrins posts.

[Dch48]

I think people need to read the novels less, not more. They are just that, novels, and not canon. Go by what the actual creators of the game give us and not novelists. I personally have not read a single one and don't intend to.

[Talen]

I think people need to read the novels less, not more. They are just that, novels, and not canon. Go by what the actual creators of the game give us and not novelists. I personally have not read a single one and don't intend to.

Ahhh...novels are canon.

EJL

[LilSaihah]

I think whats happened is Saladrin has posted so many anti orc - anti horde threads, it finally formed a kind of animus from it, with its own sentience, and yet because all the anti horde/orc was sucked into saladrin, the animus focuses against the alliance.

Yeah, this threads as silly as saladrins posts.

So Salandrin has created... The anti-Salandrin? Dear God man.

[Curanhadin]

Whole thread is just a joke, plus the example of Garithos doesnt even count because he was possesed by a dreadlord. Varian has good reasons to hate orcs but has moved on for the most part. dumb thread is dumb.

[Mormolyce]

Ahhh...novels are canon.

EJL

I have this general rule across all fiction: if it sucks, it's not canon.

[Dch48]

Ahhh...novels are canon.

EJL

Even when Blizzard has said that they're not?

[Kaleredar]

How can you say that humans are the most racist? They let every single one of the alliance sit around and chill in Stormwind. The dwarves and Night elves even have (well, had, on the part of the night elves) their own districts.

What in the hell is with horde fanboys going "but Garithos was racist!" to answer for every "bad" thing the horde has done? So what? He was one guy who was kind of a dick to Kael'thas.

I mean yeesh, we could then say "All orcs are racist" because Garrosh looks down on all non-orc races.

[Talen]

Even when Blizzard has said that they're not?

The one thing they've said about the fiction in general is that the RPG isn't canon anymore.....but that they still reserve the right to say that parts of it are. There are certainly large chunks of the RPG that they've actually said they like - Calias story being one.

Otherwise, they've largely taken a "if it's published it's canon" approach, regardless of the media.

EJL

[Chonar]

No, but do you know what does bother me?

Unnecessary Capitalization of Seemingly random Words in a Sentence.

[Strakha]

I don't think the humans have any reason to not be racist. There is going to be xenophobia going forward in any situation where a foreign race appears in conflict with you. If you think this is bad, wait til real life humanity has to encounter a secondary race in the future. It will be racism like you have never seen. Therefore I agree with how Blizzard has intrepreted humans responding to the threat of orcs, etc.

[Frostbane]

Compared to some other fantasy IPs, what passes for racism in Warcraft is both woefully oversimplified and not even that extensive.