...Then don't run LFR...what is so hard about this?
What can't find a guild that will carry you without it? Sorry if that comes across as bitter but if you can't stomach a little pragmatism in your diet maybe you should shuffle along.
I have eaten all the popcorn, I left none for anyone else.
The only real problem that I have with LFR is how players can get in to ToT LFR with a large portion of their gear being from heroic dungeons. THAT is a slap in the face. Average ilvl isn't enough anymore, they should expand it to "base-line ilvl for current BiS" in my opinion.
Your thread title is incorrect; I thought LFR could get worse, a lot worse. And it has!
If anything, I've seen way more people sticking around after a wipe and improving their play. Prime example is Ji-Kun. Have yet to 1-shot him on 3 different characters, but after the first wipe generally the nest team gets much better once they understand what they're doing. The people on the platform get better at gathering for quills and absorbing green blobs strategically.
Pretty much every time I've wiped in ToT LFR, the group has gotten better as the next attempt improves on execution and mechanics. The buff just helps a lot in getting people to stick around who might otherwise bail and hope for a better group later. It was a great change that helps groups stick together and learn the encounters.
Next time you want to talk about "f(l)unking math," go try doing it yourself.
So your majority heroic blues statement is utter BS.
"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"Almost every time I have gotten to know a critic personally, they keep up with the criticism but lose the venom." -- Ghostcrawler
"Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must first be overcome." -- Samuel Johnson
For the 522 gear you need rep, rep you get from the raid....
And don't forget the cheap valor gear still requires the rep for GL and the other factions.. All in all, it is NOT possible in mostly heroic 5 man gear.
You overlooking the truth however.... OFFSPEC..
I can have an ilevel 510 geared main spec toon and get in LFR with it, wearing an average ilevel of 437... For all I need is putting on my shiny gear and queue, once inside I switch to my other gear.. Practical example: Epic Healer running for Tank OS.. The healer gear won't do shit, he's better off with the green gear.
I can see peoples problems, but for me (as a raider, currently 3/12, soon to be 6 though, council is a bitch) its quite fun. Some upgrades and a bit of craic with the guild. Bare in mind I do lfr with about 5 guildies including a tank and healer usually.
Anyway, I was just countering the BS assertion you can wonder into ToT LFR in heroic blues. Also it would take you more than 20 heroics to get enough honour to get a full 476 set. 20 heroics will yield about 480*20 = 9600JP -> 6400HP. It would get you around 3-5 pieces of PVP gear. You can't even buy a weapon with that.