2. It helps her people a lot.
3. She personally helps her people on the battlefield. A lot.
4. Her people have the freedom of will.
5. Her people aren't fucking shit up all around the globe, they're securing their own little kingdom.
Fail. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, you haven't played their starting zone. No one forces worship. You're free to either go back to death, or be protected by your kin, or wander away and try to survive alone. Not everyone who wanders away can survive on their own, not everyone is a voilet-flame-superkiller like Voss. And those who go against the Forsaken despite their state share the fate of Marshal Redpath and his rotbrains band. And if you paid any attention when reading her short story, she told Garrosh that she "no longer saw them as arrows in her quiver". But I'm sure you only saw what you wanted to see.The Forsaken are the Forsaken, because they regained their free will. Yet they are told, right from the moment they are "reborn" that they should revere and serve someone they don't even know. "I created you, I am your master." You would think that there would be more characters like Lilian Voss.
From an ordinary Bill the Ordinary Forsaken's POV, even if he learned that she keeps them as a shield between herself and death, so what? Her motivation actually makes her care much more about her people. Isn't any king's army a bulwark between him and death? It's only logical, even if you don't want to admit it. Besides, she's been at the spearhead of most Forsaken conflicts, overseeing things personally or even leading the charge. When was the last time Wrynn dragged his hypocritical ass out of his palace, aside from that time when he taught Tyrande elementary basics of common sense?
On the article: bah, a Brujah. Impressionable anarchist kid; "So I rolled Cynwise, a Forsaken Warlock, shuddered at my shilouette on the screen, and started questing" /facepalm. He makes Putress an example - seriously? He's as indicative of the Forsaken in general as Arthas is of humans. "Who were you in your previous life that you can be so calm about your current situation?" - how about "a calm person with a will to live despite all odds"? About Sylvanas: "But who is she to me, the newly-risen dead?" - she's your queen, blockhead. Kings and queens are supposed to be revered. Especially when they build the kingdom from zero and give you everything you have at the start - your un-life, and a chance to exist and do wahtever yuo didn't have time to do until you died. "No matter how the Forsaken spin it, they are mentally and spiritually still humans (or elves)" - he contradicts himself. "They choose to return to slavery" - what does he base that upon? They are more of a tight family - a very ruthless and vengeful gamily with great love to their Big Mama.
They are however responsible for what they are doing now, and saying "hey, we've been abandoned anyway, so fuck it" is a bad justification. Leonid the Revered is a good example that not all Forsaken view themselves as being abandoned by the light, by the way. Redemption is a certainly an available path for them.
Last edited by iscalio; 2013-03-26 at 09:15 AM.
Originally Posted by Vince McMahon
We just seriously can't keep explaining to you the appeal of the forsaken, it's like you can't even understand them theme wise. But what's more obnoxious is that you are actively bringing anti-forsaken propaganda, and to what purpose?
Besides, that Brujah example is not evil either - it's perfect logic. Besides, being a Brujah Ghoul isn't that bad. Nor are Brujah vampires evil, they are chaotic vampires with ADHD really. The antitribu Brujah are somewhat evil though, but mostly because they don't give a fuck.
Last edited by Venziir; 2013-03-26 at 09:21 AM.
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