Would be an awesome twist! But I like him so it would be kinda sad at the same time
He should die to enrage the horde
He should not die, horde needs him as leader
our Warchief is coming back.
I don't think Chris Metzen wrote Thrall as a 'I'm secretly who Chris Metzen wants/believes to be!'-character. I think Thrall was written to be a person to be admired and loved for his qualities, definitely. But that doesn't make Thrall a Mary Sue.
The girl from Twilight, however, IS a Mary Sue. It's basically Stephanie Meyer writing about her own fantasies, where the main character is, in fact, her. Or, at least, that is what it reads like. Mediocre unnoticeable girl attracts the hottest guy in school. Hot guy is also a very mysterious vampire. All sorts of awesome adventure awaits!
Why does that read as a Mary Sue character? Because deep down, we all know we've had the same or similar fantasies in our teens, that's why.
On topic: Yes, I think Thrall should die. Cause some emotional turmoil in the Thrall-loving fanbase (that includes me, by the way), add some depth and risk, and do away with superhero characters. WoW isn't Marvel, after all.
Incoming Thrassk about why we're all wrong and stupid for wanting Thrall to go away.
I wouldn't want him dead to "enrage" the Horde. But perhaps to show how far Garrosh has fallen. How far down the rabbit hole he was willing to go to prove he was a "good" leader.
Plus I want him gone because he's a ridiculous mary sue.
Problem with Thrall is he gets focus at the detriment of the rest of the story and other characters.
And I am of the opinion that super powered characters ARE bad.
Well; he certainly looks like a Mary Sue from what I could find... But I don't read manga or comics, so I don't know for sure.He's not a Mary Sue. Med'an is.
Yes, I've read the first book of Twilight. Just so I could have an opinion. :P
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Then all Mages,Shamans,Druids, even Death Knights are bad characters. Heck the Lich King was a bad character by your logic.Actually, I said Thrall was not a Mary Sue.
And I am of the opinion that super powered characters ARE bad.
OT: Thrall doesn't really take that much spotlight as people implied. At least not in the MoP things so far.
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I don't think Thrall will be Warchief again (I'm thinking Vol'jin), but on the off chance he is, he better get an updated model with Doomhammer Plate. I don't want my Warchief to wear rags.
I think he should die as well in the final fight with Garrosh. With Jaina/Varian and all the horde there, it would bring them all together to "remember a fallen hero" kind of thing. Jaina would obviously be broken up over Thrall's death which would make the alliance a bit more sympathetic to it and horde is obvious as well. The legion could end up attacking some kind of Thrall memorial bringing the factions together more to fight them off in the next xpac.
I don't think Thrall should die (although if he dies well, I wouldn't mind it). However, he should not return as Warchief. After being World Shaman, he is too strong now. Both Alliance and Horde players must woot for their leaders, and Thrall is now too much a legendary character for anyone to compete with. They did a good job building up Varian, but I don't think he's on par with Thrall yet.
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I don't think he should die, I think he should fight in the siege of orgrimmar, but not become war chief. After the siege have him retire, return to nagrand and spend his days with Agra, the kids and I think Saurfang is still in nagrand.
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I think thrall is too powerful to become war chief again, only way I see him dying is if he sacrifices himself somehow in soo.
I don't want him to die, but neither I want him to return as leader of the horde. Is calling is greater than political disputes.
Though for drama's sake -if he died- I'd like to be him fighting Garrosh alongside Jaina, sort of a callback from when he and Gromm defeated Mannoroth. As he fades, he leaves Jaina some words to Aggra and his son and thanks Jaina for her firendship, then he dies in Jaina's arms as Gromm died in his.
That would also lead to more faction wars, with some in the horde believing Jaina took the opportunity to get rid of Thrall and removing the only match to her power, it would be an interesting fallout.
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Well i can't vote. I don't want him to die but i don't want him as the leader.
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Stormrage: Malfurion single handedly fights the Nightmare off and becomes a literal god.
Wolfheart: Varian becomes a super saiyan.
Night of the Dragon: Krasus commands a raptor army.
Wolfheart: Malfurion is kind of the damsel in distress in this book. Ass kicked by Maiev a few times.
War of the Ancients: Krasus is relegated to little more than a narrator.
Stormrage: Most characters fall to the Nightmare without a hint of their awesome powers.
Thrall TotA: Thrall is a total wimp in this book. Even at the end he's little more than motivational speaker. He's not even a very good Shaman.
Thrall is well represented though. He's flawed. He's Human. He's Orcy. He's a Shaman but not the best Shaman. He's a Champion but not the only Champion. He has hopes, fears, desires, sore spots, faults of pride, faults of pacifism, naivety and limits. In most of his literature he's depicted as powerful but not god-like. He's never once called the Aspect of Earth. He's just a Shaman doing his Shamanic duty. Alexstrasza even laughs at the idea of him being an Aspect. He's just an Orc. A prime Orc of the Old New Horde.
A Mary Sue is, by definition, a self-fulfillment character with powers and abilities that seem out of place within the universe.
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