That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.
For an Old God, death is not necessarily death. It's as simple as that.
Anyway, we know his "heart" (whatever that constitutes) was bound and sealed by the Titans and hidden beneath the Vale, so obviously part of Y'Shaarj is still alive to some degree. The boss that's faced in the scenario is simply called the Echo of Y'Shaarj.
I have a feeling that this is probably also what the Mantid have been trying to obtain for centuries, and the true reason for the wall protecting the Vale from their swarms. They explicitly talk about him awakening.
When the usurpers came - the ones you call "Titans" - Y'Shaarj was destroyed.
Also, I still really like my personal theory that we're hastening Y'Shaarj's return by killing the Sha. With each Sha we kill, we're restoring some of his essence. When the seventh Sha is finally killed, he will be able to return. More or less like the premise of Persona 3.
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Didnt he name pretty much all the Sha's? Heard pain, agony, hatred, etc.
His essence is split, and the body is "dead" - but so was C´thun, and he could regenerate himself over time. If all the parts come together, and the klaxxi finds a way to get them together "he" will be back again.
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The word you want to use is "have" not "of".
You may have alot of stuff in your country, but we got Lolland.
But its important to note he isn't dead, not even the Klaxxi call him dead, he was destroyed. If we look at this Mural inside the Klaxxi building we see an almost Octopi like creature, so maybe the seven heads are actually his one head and the other ones his arms which were set free after the Titans smashed his husk and buried his dark heart beneath the Vale.
If he actually can take his form back is another thing, if so we are certainly doomed, atleast if we believe the Klaxxi.
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It was the same with Yogg Saron and C'thun though. They also believed we weren't gonna survive those. Or basically.. with all big villains. They also believed the Lich King would decimate Azeroth and that we had very little chance to survive.
Besides, we've never seen an Old God at full power. The Old Gods we fought were at minuscule fractions of their actual power because when they spawn in the mortal realm again, in a husk, they're not yet at full power; they're still regenerating.
Like with charging a phone if the batteries died on you. If you charge it up, the phone itself will already function at around 5-10% power. (depending)
And the thing is that Blizzard is very hard to trust with these things because if Y'Shaarj were to become important in the story, they couldn't just up and admit he was going to play a huge role -- they'd want to keep it secret and the most reliable way to do that would be to say "No. He's dead. Very very dead.".
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^ Totally agree. He had two options when being asked questions about Y'saarj if they are actually planning on using him. To admit the old god may be still alive, then everyone obviously knows it is going to play a part. Or to cover your ass and say that Y'saarj is 'very very dead' when death to and old god is not the same as death to a mortal. He's dead in the sense he can't reform whole in the physical realm without some help like other old gods can normally. Id consider old gods both alive and dead at the same time anyway, they like live in between.
Other then that, there is the massive list of characters in WoW that were allegedly said to be dead then came back.
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as stated not just dead, "very, very, very" dead
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His voice sounds almost exactly like gravemind from halo.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.
The night is dark and full of terrors...
I wager Yshaarj will be back in someway but back again later for a bigger battle with all the Old Gods(Old God Council? Rofl)
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It is said the Mantid worshiped the seven heads of Y'Shaarj.
Have you had the dream again? A black goat with seven eyes that watches from the outside. - Puzzle Box of Yogg-saron
I don't think death is the end for the great old ones.
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wouldn't the usurper be Lei Shen as he usurped Ra-den and I'm sure he left behind many "toys"
I wonder... Yogg-Saron was the god of death, and he created the curse of flesh so that Titans' creations would become mortal, would have to procreate and die - thus making them alive in the first place. Y'shaarj is known to thrive on negative emotions... but what if he created emotionality just like Yogg-Saron created the cycle of life and death using Titans' constructs?
By the way, though his voice sounds menacing, half of his phrases are just silly threats. As always.
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