Hmm iirc macro'd BT still beats RE for dw frost.
While it's not a sufficient sample size I just started testing the procs in an isolated environment. 30m of hitting a dummy using RC and hitting a dummy using BT did not show a significant difference in procs per minute. (naked DKs, both draenai, both frost 2h, hitting the lvl 60 dummy with feather equipped in unholy presence, keyboard macro set to a rotation using all the runes and RP) Will see what it looks like in a few hours to check if there's a significant difference in number of strikes and procs.
Like someone mentioned, if Runic Corruption was buffed just a little bit it would be a lot better, but currently it has a very low time on run generation. I like the idea of having it stacked which would add even more fluidity to the class. The thing with RC currently is that, if you happen to hit Frost Strike or Death Coil back to back, and you are lucky enough to proc RC back to back, its like you've wasted the first proc. Or even if they up the current time on 100% run generation to like 5 secs instead of 3 secs, that would help a bit too. But at its current state its fluid but not very efficient.
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Of all the 3 talents, I find RC to have the most fluid playstyle. Its predictable for the most part and I enjoyed playing Unholy while using RC to level up via dungeons.
I know a lot of people loved RE as Frost in the past, but I've always hated the randomness to hit for the most part. With an old computer and on low settings you often see the procs a second too late.
I am actually liking Blood Tab right now with the macro. It feels as fluid as RC without me actually having to manage and focus on the charges.
But I would seriously consider the change. A stacking buff on Runic Corruption make it a more appealing talent PVE and PVP wise.
You're gonna have to explain to me why you think Runic Corruption should stack how powerful it is, rather than stacking its duration like it currently does.
If it stacks over its current duration, you will have DKs in top guilds choosing this talent specifically over the other 2 and trying to "game" it. With RNG on their side, you can have a 100% uptime on this ability or close to it making Death Knights really OP.
With what he has suggested, is that the "buff" stacks 3 stacks for a duration of 3 secs. This way you ain't overwriting the first application when you get procs back to back cause currently with this talent, you are negating the first proc.
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I think you're misunderstanding how RC works. Every time you use your proccing ability it has a chance to proc RC, if you already have RC active then you just get the duration of the new proc added to the currently active one. If you're *insanely* lucky then you can get up to 6 secs or so of the buff (best i've personally managed) but with any more you just can't burn through runes fast enough so there's no benefit to that.
As for making it stack speed of rune regen it would have an even worse effect on capping resources as if it were regenning your runes 3x faster than normal you would be almost instantly capped even if all your runes were depleted.
It's clear that the pros of Spark of Zandalar perform better in RC.So I guess RC may be essentially a haste increasing.OR It's only a bug.
p.s. Excuse my English,I may not describe it very well.But I believe you could know what i mean.
RC duration scales inversely with haste so it should not be better than the other two choices due to haste, either on gear or from a trinket buff.
The proc of Spark of Zandalar does not lengthen the buff duration but overrides it.
Think about it like this:
10s first proc (20s) duration
20s second proc (20s) duration
60s fight ends
Uptime = 10-20s for proc 1 and 20-40s for proc 2 = 30s in total = 50% uptime
10s first proc
30s second proc
60s fight ends = 10-20s for proc 1 and 30-50s for proc 2 = 40s in total = 66% uptime
In both examples we would have 2 procs per second, but the uptime is vastly different.
If you want to check if there are more procs, you don't look at uptime, but at number of procs.
Also if we just compare your pictures, RC for frost 2h seems to hurt the uptime of the Fallen Crusader weapon enchant by a lot.
What you are seeing on the 3 screenshots is not a bug, it's just "bad luck". If you'd repeat that test 20 times, you'd get 20 times different results.
(repeat it a 1000 times and calculate the average and you've got something of a proof)
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Basically it means trying to get the best out of RE by making sure it procs the runes you need (and you do so by only using RS with both F or U on cooldown with at least 1 B off cd).
Btw. Imo rune tetris with RE is still worse than RC unless you're in a situation where DS timing doesn't matter since it requires less attention and tends to be less "spiky"
Question regarding Runic Corruption. Noticed that when it lasts around 2 seconds when it procs. When it procs again while the buff is still up, the duration jumped to 6 seconds. I've managed to get 10 seconds of RC and kept it up for quite a bit. Is this RNG luck or did something change recently, because I can't remember making the duration so long in the past few weeks.