View Poll Results: How should the 85-90 experience be changed?

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  • Add flying in Pandaria for 85 and above.

    25 10.29%
  • Reduce the experience needed for each level.

    76 31.28%
  • Add flying AND reduce the experience needed.

    61 25.10%
  • Don't change the leveling at all.

    68 27.98%
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    13 5.35%

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  1. #61
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    I would love it if they reduced the XP. Why not give us an option where if we already have chars at 90, we can level 85-90 faster on alts? It's fun to do quests for lore and so on for the first time, maybe even okay the second. But the third time is so annoying.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Romeothecat View Post
    Dread Wastes feels like you are forced to finish the entire zone for the klaxxi rep just like therazane.
    I'm not following. Why would you feel forced to get Kalaxxi rep? There is no real reason to get it anymore.

  3. #63
    88 and 89 exp kills it for me.

    Especially now that the toon I'm leveling is healer only; I'm stuck spamming BG's and Dungeons through that crap of a grind.
    It needs a nerf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    So? It will take someone that knows what they are doing roughly 60-70 hours of game play to get to 85 then they have another 20-30 hours before they can experience the part of the game that everyone is playing. Asking someone to play for 100 hours plus before they can even start to play the main part of the game is ridiculous the first time around let alone third, forth or fifth time. It might be a different story if the content and story available was varied and plentiful enough to be enjoyable but in essence you are asking people to invest weeks playing the game doing the same three or four quests over and over again. This is before you even hit the issues of the story between the revamped 1-60, TBC, WOTLK, Cata and MOP essentially being all over the place.

    There are reasons that WOW is not attracting enough new players to replace those that leave and a long drawn out levelling process is part of them.
    I didn't mean full days, you can literally make 85 in a matter of days and by that I mean 24 hours would do it. I never said actual days (each day is 24 hours) because nobody plays for that long usually. I've made level 60 within one session around 8ish hours...
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  5. #65
    I liked the idea I saw in a blue post today that they might be discussing.

    Reach 90 on one character, xp required reduction for alts.
    Reach 90 on two characters, further reduction for your alts.

    Would be cool to progressively get a faster leveling for alts.
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  6. #66
    Hope they reduce the xp and add flying. Leveling for the first time in a new expansion/zone is fun, exciting and you get to see all the new enemies and the designs. The second time through is okay, you can maybe try leveling a faster route, skipping certain quest chains you know are long and tedious and instead take faster quests, sometimes skipping entire zones you know are slow. From the 3rd time onwards leveling is just a chore, there's nothing fun about it and there's no enjoyment to be had. There isn't even a feeling of accomplishment, I mean it isn't difficult, it's just time consuming.

    It's like trying to break down a brick wall with your skull, painful, annoying and slow, and you won't even feel any excitement when the wall finally crumbles.

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    I'll personally say I think leveling as a whole minus the new 5 levels (10 for BC and WotLK) is far too fast.
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  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Aang View Post
    I'll personally say I think leveling as a whole minus the new 5 levels (10 for BC and WotLK) is far too fast.
    I'll personally bet you don't have 40 toons like I do

    (only 6 are max lvl though)

  9. #69
    Decrease XP req, and increase XP from dungeons(currently it gives next to none)

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    Quote Originally Posted by checking facts View Post
    I'll personally bet you don't have 40 toons like I do

    (only 6 are max lvl though)
    I've made like 2 alts all the way and I wasn't satisfied about how fast everything went by.
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  11. #71
    I'm sitting on 15 level 90s at the moment, and I have to say, I got so goddamn burned out on running around everywhere that I canceled my sub once they all got to 90. First one was a really great experience, 15th made me want to put a gun barrel in my mouth. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. I have zero desire to go from that suicidal mission to, what, running a million dailies? No fucking thanks.
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  12. #72
    I personally liked the heirloom tome of flying that required higher level to purchase and lower level to use... make it a bit on the expensive side and it doubles as a gold sink. (I'm thinking 2-3x as expensive as normal pandaren flight training would cost at max level.)

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    I say stay the same for now, however the next expansion to add in flying as well as reduced exp.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by endersblade View Post
    I'm sitting on 15 level 90s at the moment
    May I ask why? Why would you level that many, goodness gracious...

  15. #75
    I'd rather level 1-90 doing nothing but dailies in HFP than finish leveling my second character through Pandaria.
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    Currently leveling my 5th alt, yes it is my choice but some help from blizzard is appreciated. Like a 10-20% extra XP or an tome for flying in panda land.

    But it is going good the way it is, not that i am complaining it is just that it will be a nice change. Just give the 10-20% and flying for people who already got a 90.

    Like this:
    1 90 is 5% extra XP.
    2 90 is 10% extra XP.
    3 90 is 15% extra XP.
    4 90 is 20% extra XP
    5 90 is 25% extra XP.

    And there is stops, since there is no achievement for 6 or 7.

    Being able to buy a tome like in wotlk would be nice, caus sitting on the ground leveling isn't the problem, the problem is that 90s jumping in instantly killing you and then ganking you. Yes it is my choice to be on a PvP realm and that is no problem for me, the problem is that a 90 is ganking my 88 lock, how in the hell can i kill a full PvP geared 90 rogue? They are hard enough for a 90 char to defeat let alone an 88.
    Retired.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Aang View Post
    I didn't mean full days, you can literally make 85 in a matter of days and by that I mean 24 hours would do it. I never said actual days (each day is 24 hours) because nobody plays for that long usually. I've made level 60 within one session around 8ish hours...
    Without using RAF the fastest people have levelled 1-90 is about one and half days played, this is taking advantage of guild perks, heirlooms, rested exp and more than likely a friend or two to help, the average player will take at least twice this amount of time. If someone plays for an average of two hours a day there are looking at about two months before they can enjoy main part of the game, personally I do not think that levelling experience is fun or varied enough
    to play through for 70 odd hours multiple times.

  18. #78
    Are people really getting that lazy? They intended to make Pandaria leveled without flying mount for a very long time. If ever, I suspect they will enable flying at lower levels at the very end of the expansion, which would be ok at that time. I really want Blizzard to keep on their "promise" of no flying in Pandaria as long as possible. Somehow it would make me happy. However I agree with reducing slightly the exp needed, especially from 89-90. Leveling in Dread Wastes is not hard, it's just boring.

    If you have problems with leveling your alts without flying, perhaps you should check out some guides hm? :>

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    Quote Originally Posted by endersblade View Post
    I'm sitting on 15 level 90s at the moment, and I have to say, I got so goddamn burned out on running around everywhere that I canceled my sub once they all got to 90. First one was a really great experience, 15th made me want to put a gun barrel in my mouth. Absolutely fucking ridiculous. I have zero desire to go from that suicidal mission to, what, running a million dailies? No fucking thanks.
    So, your addiction as an alt-o-holic, and need to play and level 15 lvl 90 characters, led to the hate and unsubscription of a game because you were burnt out... and flying would have kept the barrel out of your mouth? No offsense. You obviously loved the game, but it may have been the best thing to happen to you and give you a little break from Warcraft. No one should ever feel suicidal over a game... especially a kid's game.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    We intend to disallow flying while leveling from 90 to 100, and have flying become available again in the first major patch for Warlords of Draenor. Source

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Superman-BladesEdge View Post
    So, your addiction as an alt-o-holic, and need to play and level 15 lvl 90 characters, led to the hate and unsubscription of a game because you were burnt out... and flying would have kept the barrel out of your mouth? No offsense. You obviously loved the game, but it may have been the best thing to happen to you and give you a little break from Warcraft. No one should ever feel suicidal over a game... especially a kid's game.
    A kid's game? A majority of people that play are adults.

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