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    You Wanna Lose Weight!??!?!? Read This Before asking Questions!

    To lose weight you need to BURN more calories then you EAT. You do not necessarily need to exercise regularly to accomplish this, since your body burns calories all day. Your weight loss will be much more rapid, and you can eat more, if you do find time to slip in some regular cardiovascular exercise.

    So to start out you want to try to drop your caloric intake by 400-500 calories. This will most likely get your burning more then you eat.. unless you are rapidly gaining weight right now, which means you are taking in a LOT more then you burn. If this is the case you need to get more drastic, but for now 400-500 fewer calories per day should do.

    How do you do that? It is actually quite simple, but I would need to know your currently diet to make it very precise. I will tell you some pretty easy and common ways to cut 500 calories a day out.

    DO NOT EAT OR DRINK ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

    SODA - just 3 12oz regular sodas per day has about 450 calories You can drink diet though, especially if you need caffeine. I HATE diet, but believe me I got used to it. I still don't like it but the only reason I really need to drink soda is for caffeine.

    MAYO - People think eating sandwiches is healthy, not if you have mayo on them. I know a lot of people can't handle this, but use a good mustard instead. You will be surprised, you can really live without mayo. You may need to give up things like Tuna Salad, Chicken Salad, Potatoe Salad completely if you cannot handle these without the mayo. BUT, low fat mayo in moderation is exceptable.

    CHIPS - One exception, feel free to eat anything BAKED. I love baked lays. They make baked ruffles.. and there are baked tortilla chips. Never eat cheetos.. doritoes.. fritos.. potatoe chips, etc. These are extremely high in calories and saturated fat.

    FRENCH FRIES - anything FRIED. Sorry guys, you just gotta live without.

    ICE CREAM - You can eat non-fat frozen yogurt or LOW fat ice cream, but for reasons I will discuss below its not a good idea either.

    Donuts, Bagels, Candy, Pastries (no cookies!) - These things go straight to fat in your body.

    JUICE and most FRUIT. - Juice is death!!! FRUIT is ****. its all Fructose, which is a type of sugar, and WILL cause you to store fat. Now don't take this as never eat any fruits, fruits such as blueberries, strawberries, blackberries with high fibre content and low GI is ok. Fruit is great if you are living a "healthy" lifestyle, but for losing FAT it will hinder your progress. Mod Edit: Fruit is fine! It contains high fiber content which controls the release of fructose. Don't skimp on fruit

    SALAD DRESSINGS & OIL - Go for NON-FAT dressing.. they still taste good.. especially honey mustard and ranch. One serving of dressing has 100+ calories!

    CHEESE - unless you can find non-fat.. skip it. You can live without it.

    Ok so what to make sure you ARE eating:

    PROTEIN: protein should be a BIG part of your diet, this is why. Protein fills you up, but has half the calories as fat. Protein also does not cause your body to store fat, but carbs do. I will explain later.

    WATER: This is VERY important for a few reasons. Drink it all day long, constantly, force yourself too even when you are not thirsty. There are techniques to do this, fill a glass and drink it all at once. Then fill the glass again to take with you or whatever. Why water. Well first off you need a ton of water for your body to burn fat. It will increase you metabolism and help you burn burn burn. But here is the reason why I think its great.. pounding a glass of water can trick your body into thinking it is not hungry.. it is great for when you get late night cravings... slam some water and go to bed.. in the morning you wake up starving.. before breakfast drink a ton of water and you wont eat as much. Use it to fill you up.

    VEGGIES: Vegetables fill you up, but have little or no calories. You can use them as snacks and fillers. I prefer carrots. They are crunchy like chips, have a little taste.. and really have no calories.
    So what good stuff can you eat though?

    SNACKS: try nuts or peanut butter. Nuts are super high in fat, but the oils you get from it are good and essential to the body. Try a trail mix, even one with some chocolate in it. Its far better then candy.

    STEAK, CHICKEN, & TURKEY: who doesn't love a great steak.. and how many different ways can you eat chicken? Tons! For steaks go for New York, or Sirloin... Top and bottom round is good too but tough. NEVER EVER eat Rib Eye or Filet Mignon they are LOADED with fat .. London Broil and Tri Tip is not bad either.

    FAST FOOD: yes you can eat fast food, you just have to be smart about it. Try to get meals that have chicken. Cut out the french fries and mayo and you will be left with a semi-decent fast food meal. Fast food is NOT ideal by any means but for someone who is busy it is inevitable at times.

    PROTEIN BARS: there are TONS on the market now. Many taste really good, some taste like a candy bar. I like Detour bars.. and they have 32g of protein each! Cliff bars are not bad either if you find a flavor you like.

    Yogurt! Get non-fat, there are tons of flavors out there to play with.

    You really have to get yourself in a mode of thinking "Is what I am eating now going to be good for me or bad for me?" Everything you put into your body should have a purpose, don't just eat because it tastes good.

    Also, some fat is ok.. don't sweat it. The reason why you have to concentrate on looking to reduce it is because people normally eat more fat then they should, so really key in on that and look for ways to eliminate it. To compensate beef up your protein intake.

    So why no juice? no bagels? no carbs?
    This is why everyone says carbs are bad: It really isn't that CARBS are bad.. it is that sugar is bad.. and carbs have tons of sugars in them. Complex carbs are good. whole grain bread, etc, but don't go overboard.

    So why is sugar bad? To process sugar your body releases insulin, and insulin promotes fat storage! You ultimately want to keep your insulin levels low low low. And very consistent and even.. when you get an insulin "spike" your body puts fat on, in men it puts it around the waste. So this is why you need to avoid sugar like the plague!

    So I hope this does not sound bad or depressing, it really isn't. You do not need to starve, you do not need to give up everything that is good in life

    The REALLY good news is that you do not need to live like this forever. If you follow everything above you will be adhering to a fairly strict diet. Use it to drop weight.. say for 2, 3, 4 maybe even 6 months. Once you get to where you want you can increase you calories slightly.. start adding in a dessert here and there.. treating yourself more. I stayed on the diet above for 3 months or so, now I eat much more liberally.

    The number one piece of advice to take from this is: Be conscious of what you are eating at all times and its effect on your body!

    Anyone will self control can diet themselves. People tend to use weight watchers and things like that because they need a support group, they are not strong willed enough to suck it up and do it for themselves. I am sure if you set a goal you will have no problem meeting it.

    I know you are busy with work, but throw in a basketball game at a gym every few days.. or a short job... a ride on a stationary bike.. something to burn a few hundred extra calories here and there. The more you exercise, the more you can eat!

    DO NOT weigh yourself regularly. Scales are a bad indicator of FAT loss. Measuring yourself every 2-4 weeks gives you a way better indication if you are lossing inches or not. Start today, find out where you are at. Then track your progress. Your own progress will be self motivating.


    good luck!

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    I'm gonna try it, need to get fat outta my body

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    "You can eat fast food, but don't eat ANY fruit"

    Really?

    ---------- Post added 2013-04-08 at 11:53 AM ----------

    And why do I feel this was copy/pasted from somewhere else since it says "Mod Edit" and no moderator has edited it here.

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    "Now don't take this as never eat any fruits"

    read more thorough next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsteaks View Post
    "Now don't take this as never eat any fruits"

    read more thorough next time.
    Oh, I read it fine, but that's what it comes across as. You put fast food under things that are "ok" when the sodium content in your average fast food meal is more than you should have in a week. It's absolutely ridiculous.

    While there are some good points made, following what you have written is a mediocre diet at best.

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    I think he read it thorough enough to spot the mod edit saying this was a case of copy/paste

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    So... you link what i consider common knowledge. I resently started going to the gym, because heck... i like my chocolate and icecream!

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    And lol, copy and pasted from Bodybuilding.com, a post from 2002 nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    "You can eat fast food, but don't eat ANY fruit"

    Really?

    ---------- Post added 2013-04-08 at 11:53 AM ----------

    And why do I feel this was copy/pasted from somewhere else since it says "Mod Edit" and no moderator has edited it here.
    It is true, fruit is healthy but some isn't that great for losing weight like the banana.
    OT: I don't know why but when I stopped drinking soda and diet soda I started losing weight. When I started drinking this again, I wouldn't lose weight so for one reason or another diet sodas are still not that good. You can lose a lot of weight by just drinking water and grabbing a healthy cookie (like cookies based on wheat).

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    I only wish to hand out information to the general public to promote healthier living to anyone who wishes to improve certain aspects of his or her life. That's all.

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    Could that count as necroing? It sort of is bringing back a since long dead post except on another forums.

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    The only advice in this whole thread is:
    The number one piece of advice to take from this is: Be conscious of what you are eating at all times and its effect on your body!
    Everyone's body is different, therefore you store fat different, hold water different and even digest nutrients differently. Some bodies naturally burn lots of calories at an idol state while other people go on a run and still don't burn enough calories. Losing weight and being a fitness nut isn't about knowing health in general... it's about knowing as much as you can in general and putting as much diversity towards your body until you find the right thing... and once you do, your bodies limits are nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsteaks View Post
    I only wish to hand out information to the general public to promote healthier living to anyone who wishes to improve certain aspects of his or her life. That's all.
    You are not promoting healthier living. This diet is made for people who want to lose weight fast, and that is very unhealthy. And diets like these are the reason people put back on weight because once they reach their desired weight and go back to eating fruits and vegetables like they should always be doing, they put weight back on. If you cut the weight eating the things you should be eating, you will keep the weight off.

    Basically what I am saying is you should really not cut any complete food group from your diet. Everything has it's place, and once you learn to create a healthy meal, you will continue to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    You are not promoting healthier living. This diet is made for people who want to lose weight fast, and that is very unhealthy. And diets like these are the reason people put back on weight because once they reach their desired weight and go back to eating fruits and vegetables like they should always be doing, they put weight back on. If you cut the weight eating the things you should be eating, you will keep the weight off.

    Basically what I am saying is you should really not cut any complete food group from your diet. Everything has it's place, and once you learn to create a healthy meal, you will continue to do so.
    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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    Basically, you (normally) will lose weight as long as your daily calorie intake doesn't exceed your daily calorie requirement.
    Sure, there are things with an insane amount of calories per serving...but imo, that's all. They won't make you store fat instantly if consumed in appropriate amounts.
    Heck, you could entirely live off chocolate and lose weight, as long as you don't go overboard with it.

    But then again, it depends on if someone just wants to shed some weight, or wants to do it healthy and maybe look fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsteaks View Post
    Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
    So you can have one, but I can't. Got it.

    Did you know that eating an apple in the morning is better at waking a person up than 2 cups of coffee? I continued to read more of what the person posted in the forum you stole this from, and he said drinking coffee is fine, yet still is pretty much anti-fruit.

    But I guess you're right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    You are not promoting healthier living. This diet is made for people who want to lose weight fast, and that is very unhealthy. And diets like these are the reason people put back on weight because once they reach their desired weight and go back to eating fruits and vegetables like they should always be doing, they put weight back on. If you cut the weight eating the things you should be eating, you will keep the weight off.

    Basically what I am saying is you should really not cut any complete food group from your diet. Everything has it's place, and once you learn to create a healthy meal, you will continue to do so.
    You really don't need a lot of fruit, though. Waaaaay back in the day, fruits were even considered as deserts. While they do have lots of great nutrients in them, they also have tons of sugar. And you might be surprised by how many people are allergic to wheat and don't even know it. Avoiding wheat when you can and eating fruit sparingly is solid advice. A pretty big chunk (I don't know specifics, but I'd be surprised if it was any less than 50%) of your daily caloric intake should come from protein. Healthy fats are important as well.

    But you're right. Cutting out any food group entirely is a shortcut to failure when dieting to lose weight. You shouldn't ever deny yourself something entirely. But if you consume something you really shouldn't (like, say, a Soda, which has absolutely zero nutritional value), you should be conscious of it and try to make adjustments in your caloric intake for the day.

    ---------- Post added 2013-04-08 at 04:16 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Nivis View Post
    Basically, you (normally) will lose weight as long as your daily calorie intake doesn't exceed your daily calorie requirement.
    Sure, there are things with an insane amount of calories per serving...but imo, that's all. They won't make you store fat instantly if consumed in appropriate amounts.
    Heck, you could entirely live off chocolate and lose weight, as long as you don't go overboard with it.

    But then again, it depends on if someone just wants to shed some weight, or wants to do it healthy and maybe look fit.
    Caloric deficit is vitally important to weight loss, but vital nutrients are important for your overall well being. You could lose weight by not eating, but that's... not very wise, to say the least.
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    If ppl don't understand you need to burn more calories then you take in, best of luck to them and their seat belt extenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reg View Post
    So you can have one, but I can't. Got it.

    Did you know that eating an apple in the morning is better at waking a person up than 2 cups of coffee? I continued to read more of what the person posted in the forum you stole this from, and he said drinking coffee is fine, yet still is pretty much anti-fruit.

    But I guess you're right...
    No offense but you came into this thread attacking his opinion. If you disagree, that's fine. Explain why and move on. There is no reason to be rude about it though.

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    So I'm currently on the Paleo diet while following this workout routine 4-5 day's a week:

    -----------------------------Lowerbody--------------------------------

    Cardio Intervals: 20 min (alternate 1 min walk 1 min sprint for 20 min duration)

    Weightlifting circuit: 2 rounds

    Bodyweight squats: 20-30 reps; advanced lifters can add weight

    Stationary lunges: 15 reps, per side

    Standing Calf raises: 30-50 reps

    Crunches: 30-50 reps

    Crunches - Elbows to Knees: 30-50 reps

    Cardio Intervals: 10 min (5min steady pace-5 min intense strides)

    Weightlifting circuit: 2 rounds

    Bodyweight squats: 20-30 reps; advanced lifters can add weight
    Stationary lunges: 15 reps, per side

    Standing Calf raises: 30-50 reps

    Crunches: 30-50 reps

    Crunches - Elbows to Knees: 30-50 reps


    -----------------------------UpperBody-------------------------------

    Cardio Intervals: 20 min (alternate 1 min walk 1 min sprint for 20 min duration)

    Weightlifting Circuit: 2 rounds

    Barbell bench press or Dumbbell bench press or push-ups: 20 reps
    One-arm dumbbell row: 20 reps, per arm

    Military press: 20 reps

    Barbell Curls: 20 reps

    Triceps dumbbell Kickbacks: 20 reps

    Cardio Intervals: 10 min (5min steady pace-5 min intense strides)

    Weightlifting circuit: 2 rounds

    Barbell bench press or Dumbbell bench press or push-ups: 20 reps
    One-arm dumbbell row: 20 reps, per arm

    Military press: 20 reps

    Barbell Curls: 20 reps

    Triceps dumbbell Kickbacks: 20 reps

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