this change seems to address some issue apart from shaman using a staff.
the 1h/oh 1h/shield vs. staff argument has been settled for a long time. no need to bring it up again.
Actually, there was a caster fist weapon in Naxx 80.the first time we've seen an epic caster fist weapon ever
Considering the lack of shield drops (only one available in T14, have yet to see one drop in a MoP raid), it's a shame if they really take staves off the shaman loot tables.
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Haste is a pretty weak stat for us, and there's so much haste on tier gear / other pieces in ToT it is extremely easy to reach the 3764 haste breakpoint in 522 gear without a weapon.
The dagger from Durumu is massively better itemised than that staff....
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While armor maybe nice for some fights my major issue is that people like me are super unlucky with even getting a shield. According to my armory I have killed the 3rd boss in msv 23 times in Raid finder as well as 12 times in normal without seeing 1 shield. (pretty sure i used a bunch of bonus rolls in normal mode as well). I also have yet to see one in ToT.
Currently I am using the 496 staff from Lei shi that I got on a bonus roll from our 1st kill but if blizzard didn't have that option I would probably still be using the 476 crafted fan or a blue shield as my offhand 6 months into the expansion.
Also with the addition of Shamanistic rage and 10% passive damage reduction in 5.3 armor is even less important now than it may have been in the past.
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1> This doesn't reduce your chances of getting loot. Removing an item from the loot table makes everything else slightly more likely to show up.
2> This is about LFR loot distribution, which deliberately makes some items class- or role-specific even though they could be used by other classes/specs. It doesn't affect anything else.
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@MattyCrossley It's a tough one. We heard from shaman upset that we would give them a 2H weapon and not allow use of their shield.
I do want to know though if I use a coin on Ji Kun HC can the staff drop.
As Ji Kun is the only HC boss that can drop a weapon for me atm, that staff is a massive upgrade.
Horridon and twin staff has never showed up as shaman loot at all (any difficulty) so not really surprised to see a change. Kind of surprised to see the change this way though, by making the 3rd staff impossible to get through coin.
To person pointing out the random drop weapons: lol. Droprate on those are abysmal. Ele seems to be down to 1 fist weapon, 2 daggers and 1 mace now for coin weapon choices (or lfr).
@ 2H Staffs for Shaman
Personally I think 2H staffs should still be on the loot tables and Shaman allowed to need roll on them in LFR, the difference between a 2H Staff or 1H/shield or 1H/OH isn't that big and Shaman were able to use the 2H legendary staff in the past. I can kinda understand for the bonus loot rolls, if they work like I think they do you aren't competing with other players for those rolls so since it rolls gear that your class can use it makes sense that you get bonus rolls that prefer a 1H and Shield over a 2H Staff, but it should not be totally excluded. Shaman are still restricted from certain types of weapons like 1H caster swords, so 2H staffs should be available.
I thought it was only for this one boss and its loot drops but people are making it sound like it will effect Shaman in all LFR loot drops so just wanna post my opinion.
@MattyCrossley Based on feedback, we are going to revert the change and let shaman win caster staves (and maces) once again.
That change was retarded anyway, glad shamans can get staves from LFR again.
My guild had the same issues with Blackhorn and Gara'jal not dropping shields for our holy pally and resto shaman. It seems that shields and hunter weapons are the bane of our loot woes this tier so far. We've always had problems with them not dropping in our main runs.