---------- Post added 2013-04-21 at 11:04 AM ----------
Unfortunately you can't be an elitist when the world around you begins to decay. Nor can the developers continue to serve and cater you to this degree because you are an apparent shrinking minority. Enjoy it while you can
Because you have HC modes and they (currently) have nothing.And like I have said a bunch, I don't think raiding is for everyone. I agree there is a gap between LFR and Normal, but I think that's a good thing. So yes, I'm an elitist. I don't want the "masses" normal raiding unless they can handle it. Why should the content I enjoy get nerfed all to hell because a bunch of unskilled people can't hack it.
And where that line falls is an entirely arbitary one decided at blizz HQ. They could put the line way past anything you can achieve - leaving you with just LFR to play with. Would that be fair?
Ha. Sometimes your "best" isn't good enough.
---------- Post added 2013-04-21 at 11:15 AM ----------
You'd go do lfr if normal was to hard. Now you know why everyone went to do lfr. Normal is to hard.
---------- Post added 2013-04-21 at 11:30 AM ----------
Meh. Personally I don't care if people leave. I know blizzard does, but im not them. WoW is in the last half of its life anyway, so I hope they keep the difficulty the same and when it does finally die. I'll find something else to play.
Last edited by cabyio; 2013-04-21 at 05:48 PM.
Blizzard knows that the people that leave dont always leave forever, and that if they change the things that were wrong, those subs may come back.
Durumu and quon still needs nerfs, Lei Shen needs nerfs, because is hard even for a last boss.
Tortos may use a nerf, specially since its way unfair for some healers.
Then in one month they can see if there is something blocking too many people.
By the way, the NEED to nerf the last bosses of HoF. Garalon is ok now, but the other 3 still require nerfs IMO, they are blocking too many people for an old tier (i know many guilds still attempting and failing to finish it).
---------- Post added 2013-04-21 at 07:46 PM ----------
The transition is non existant, there is no decision to be made, you killed Lei Shen Normal, you WILL kill H Jinrohk in a few wipes, less wipes than the ones it took to kill Lei Shen Normal.
---------- Post added 2013-04-21 at 07:50 PM ----------
Fights that have a "bite" for average raiders (which are a lot more than your group) would be a cakewalk for your group.
---------- Post added 2013-04-21 at 07:56 PM ----------
Now if you require a C to pass the course, but only 20% of the students get it and the rest gets an F, i'm sorry to tell you this, but its not the studetns fault. Either you failed to teach them, ir you made the tests too hard.
Last edited by Crashdummy; 2013-04-21 at 10:47 PM.
Once you get Lei Shen, you will kill Jinrohk very fast, because its easier than Lei Shen, you jsut need to get the feel of the fight.
The transition not only is innapropiate, is non existant. You are actually killing an easier fight. Yes, you will wipe a couple of times untill you tune your strategy, but that will be very simple after doing Lei Shen N.
I am not talking about discouraging, i am talking about being a jump up, something that involves a decision.
The challenge doesnt ramp up that much, because you can choose the order in Heroic. H Ji Kun is not harder than Lei Shen N either.
The thing is, the easiest heroic difficulties are easier than harder heroic ones. This was seen very clearly in T14, where some people that couldnt finish HoF had many MSV heroics completed.
I'll wager that there are a significant number of LFR players who have simply never set foot in a normal because they don't care about it. In fact, I'll say that that number is higher than the amount of players who feel that LFR is their only option because normals are too hard.
Sadly, neither one of us has the actual data on such things, but you did say 'everyone', so I can guarantee that you're wrong.
But it's fading away from my mind
There's another "me" waiting behind
I'll wager that difficulty of content as well as the lack of any serious or good catch up mechanic has created such a massive barrier to entry for players who would otherwise have tried normal raiding. So much so that they simply go to the most accessible and easy content available to them. LFR.
Sadly, neither one of us has the actual data on such things, but you didn't clarify and simple said no it isn't, so I can guarantee that it is not NO unequivocally.
Pls close this thread. It has completely no purpose - it is not on the B-net forums and crying for even more nerfs for a raid will not reach Blizzard's ears if you post here.
Just pointless arguing back and forth with inflammatory posts from both sides.