Opinions on San Francisco?

[Bathory]

Very cold at times. And full of an offensive number of homeless.

[Themius]

Yes, you will have to bring your own bags to the supermarket (unless you want to be charged 10 cents each not to mention peoples' dirty looks if you don't) and if you drive an SUV you're going to have a bad time, but if you can ignore that, and the social...openness.. then it's a very nice place to live. Not as high strung as LA, a little slower paced. If you like nature, there's great hikes that make you feel like you're in the country. If you like cold and foggy, there's Diamond Heights for that. You want warmer? Just go inland. There's a niche for everyone in SF. I personally hate big cities, however even I have to admit I've loved living in SF as I am in an area without the "big city" feel but still in the city. Another plus is the cute neighborhoods that are kind of self-sustaining and cut off from the big city rush but a short walk or muni ride to union square. It's worth trying.

Lol I always use my own bags when I go to the supermarket already and they give you a 10 cent off per bag discount. I don't drive at all, but if I did I would probably get a hatchback or a sedan or something. Hmm that sounds rather nice, I need to take a vacation there. Just need a reason to go besides just looking about lol.

Consistently 65 is like a dream lol. Below 40 is what I consider cold.

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Very cold at times. And full of an offensive number of homeless.

Are there really that many homeless people compared to New York City. I was on 33rd and 6th and there was a homeless guy, followed by a vet homeless guy followed by a homeless woman walking just 1 block to 34th. then on 7th from 35-40 i saw a few more homeless people (8, yes i was counting lol) plus someone doing crack. Then by kmart which i think is like 33rd or something idk between 6th and 7th (or is it 7 and 8?) anyway that cut through there will be about 10-15 homeless people some lying down, and there was a woman doing some suspicious drug activity... and port authority is just port homeless it seems. Eventually you just ignore them all and forget them, except the crazy ones... like the woman yelling at herself and limping.

[Hedleyazg]

Lol I always use my own bags when I go to the supermarket already and they give you a 10 cent off per bag discount. I don't drive at all, but if I did I would probably get a hatchback or a sedan or something. Hmm that sounds rather nice, I need to take a vacation there. Just need a reason to go besides just looking about lol.

Consistently 65 is like a dream lol. Below 40 is what I consider cold.

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Are there really that many homeless people compared to New York City. I was on 33rd and 6th and there was a homeless guy, followed by a vet homeless guy followed by a homeless woman walking just 1 block to 34th. then on 7th from 35-40 i saw a few more homeless people (8, yes i was counting lol) plus someone doing crack. Then by kmart which i think is like 33rd or something idk between 6th and 7th (or is it 7 and 8?) anyway that cut through there will be about 10-15 homeless people some lying down, and there was a woman doing some suspicious drug activity... and port authority is just port homeless it seems. Eventually you just ignore them all and forget them, except the crazy ones... like the woman yelling at herself and limping.

Seen a fair share of crazy bums in SF. Just last week I saw a guy run out into traffic screaming his head off at a moving car. Could hear him about a block away still going on and on.

[Talokami]

Are there really that many homeless people compared to New York City. I was on 33rd and 6th and there was a homeless guy, followed by a vet homeless guy followed by a homeless woman walking just 1 block to 34th. then on 7th from 35-40 i saw a few more homeless people (8, yes i was counting lol) plus someone doing crack. Then by kmart which i think is like 33rd or something idk between 6th and 7th (or is it 7 and 8?) anyway that cut through there will be about 10-15 homeless people some lying down, and there was a woman doing some suspicious drug activity... and port authority is just port homeless it seems. Eventually you just ignore them all and forget them, except the crazy ones... like the woman yelling at herself and limping.

I think the reason people keep bringing it up, is because most of the Bay Area's homeless flock to SF or to Berkeley (because hippies). It's comparable to what you see in New York, but it's a huge anomaly here.

Also, back when Reagan was governor he decided to cut funding to the state's mental health programs, which literally forced thousands of people onto the streets as mental health institutions shut their doors. So despite the fact that San Francisco has fantastic programs for its homeless population, many stay homeless because they just cannot maintain the stability needed to keep off the streets. Also, the money they earn panhandling is comparable to most jobs they could get through agencies. In fact, the population of SF is so notorious for being generous to their homeless that a lot of well off people like to masquerade as panhandlers.

Edit: Whoops. Was when Reagan was President. And apparently it wasn't exactly his fault. Conservative politics peaked and one of the casualties was federally funded health and welfare programs.

[Reeve]

San Francisco also has fairly favorable weather conditions for outdoor living year-round.

[Adam Jensen]

I'm actually a synthetic construct, invented as harbinger of our destruction. OOoops I've said too much, why do I always do that.

We exist, because you allow it and we will end because you demand it?

[Catta]

We exist, because you allow it and we will end because you demand it?

No, get in the game. He is Harbringer, not Nasara.

[Trakanonn]

Very cold at times. And full of an offensive number of homeless.

Yeah do not live in San Fran if it means you have to be in the ghettos.

When we visit, we usually stay at a cheap hotel in bad neighborhood, and walking around the city we get asked for a dollar dozens of times per night, very miserable place, very dangerous. Bums will walk up to you and start rapping, then when they finish they feel like you owe them money and will be like "I didnt sing to you for free." If I wasn't a big guy Id be scared to walk there.

I love San Fran, usually go for the Giants games and a night out with the boys. From Sacramento its only a 90 minute drive, so it is my favorite place to go. Would I want to live there? If I had a great job that could afford a decent livelihood, yes. San Fran has tiny ass houses that are worth like a million dollars. It is a miserable place to buy a home.




If that looks appealing, then go for it. Id rather live 90 minutes away in the equivilent to a 2 million dollar San Fran home, for 1/8th the price.

[Themius]

Yeah do not live in San Fran if it means you have to be in the ghettos.

When we visit, we usually stay at a cheap hotel in bad neighborhood, and walking around the city we get asked for a dollar dozens of times per night, very miserable place, very dangerous. Bums will walk up to you and start rapping, then when they finish they feel like you owe them money and will be like "I didnt sing to you for free." If I wasn't a big guy Id be scared to walk there.

I love San Fran, usually go for the Giants games and a night out with the boys. From Sacramento its only a 90 minute drive, so it is my favorite place to go.

Lol that's brazen. I can't say that's happened to me. I mean there was a homeless guy on the corner of 34th and 6th saying "Hey! Anybody want to help me get some drugs?!"

[Adam Jensen]

No, get in the game. He is Harbringer, not Nasara.

All Reapers follow the same philosophy, so it doesn't matter.

[Krystal]

I really can't add much that hasn't been said. I lived there for 4 years and now live a few hours south. Temp wise, 50-60's year round. Fairly good public transportation but if you choose to drive, do not come with a manual transmission. The hills will kill your clutch.

Did somebody say hills?
Took that pic last year (exactly a year! We went in April) when my bf & I visited San Francisco. We REALLY enjoyed our visit. My bf was wanting us to move out there (his dad is in the area), but I broke down the reality for him. It would suck having to live there, mostly because of cost. The climate seems okay. Idc about fog/rain. That's fine. I can't imagine how much strain are put on the cars with how steep those hills are. That said, the public transportation seemed good while we were there (I ADORED the colorful streetcars!!). I used an app to track the BART & Muni (I think that's the name?) system times and easily got us around the city. I loved the huge park/gardens area. Sorry, got a brain fart and can't remember the name. I also loved the shopping district (but I'm female, so yeah). Saw a few homeless people throughout the city, but it was entertaining because they were putting on magic shows and playing drums with paint cans and whatnot. (He actually sounded GOOD! I felt bad for having no change to toss to him lol.) None of them ever approached us and bugged us though. I never felt unsafe. We visited Chicago last year for my birthday, and I didn't feel safe walking around there. Panhandlers at every corner. I enjoyed my visit in Chicago too, but not as much as San Francisco.

Anyways, this is of course from a tourist point of view and not actually living there. If I had the money, then I'd consider staying there. Otherwise, no thanks. Too pricey for me, sadly. =(

[solinari6]

I'll tell you what is weird about the weather in SF ... coming from a midwesterner ... when the sun is out, and it's in the 60s, it totally feels like the 70s to me. But what sucks, is once the sun goes behind a cloud, it feels like the temp drops 20 degrees. And there's almost always a cool wind whipping around. So you really have to carry a light jacket with you wherever you go.

[Theinquisition]

One of my big reasons for wanting to move out of this area is the fact that summers are just horrible here. New York, Florida, it really isn't all that different in the summer. It's all hot and humid to the point it's just seems a little difficult to breathe. I don't like heavy air I also dislike thunderstorms. I don't see the allure of New York and why anyone would come here for holiday in the summer months. Also we rank quite highly for bad air quality.

Why not think of moving to a city like Phoenix?

The weather is beautiful, the nightlife exciting, and the cost of living low.

[Jamber]

Is that silly Bushman still over there scaring tourists, or did he stop?

[Reeve]

Is that silly Bushman still over there scaring tourists, or did he stop?

That guy totally got me once.

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Saw a few homeless people throughout the city, but it was entertaining because they were putting on magic shows and playing drums with paint cans and whatnot. (He actually sounded GOOD! I felt bad for having no change to toss to him lol.)

Those are just street entertainers, not homeless people. The homeless people aren't in the tourist areas as much.

[inboundpaper]

You see some weird people in the city, some weird people.

[Theinquisition]

You see some weird people in the city, some weird people.

You know where the weirdest people are from my experence....

The netherlands...friggin crazy weird people.