Uruguay to legalize gay marriage!

[stumpy]

I first read this as "Uganda" and assumed it was some kind of warped joke.

Good for them.

[Gheld]

Unless Uruguay is part of England or Scotland then the source article says nothing about Uruguay.

EDIT:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...l-8568525.html

I think you want this one.

[Deleted]

Unless Uruguay is part of England or Scotland then the source article says nothing about Uruguay.

EDIT:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...l-8568525.html

I think you want this one.

I agree. It says nothing about Uruguay

[Gheld]

I agree. It says nothing about Uruguay

My bad, I was looking at Rich's link. Shhh. Nobody must ever know I made a mistake in an internet discussion.

[Themius]

They've managed to live just fine without it for the last few years ... We're not talking about abusive behaviour on-going to the gay community. I'm talking about how our leaders should have their focus on their countries finances, the issues in Syria & Korea, the business opportunities in China & Africa.

All well and good for the gay community to be able to marry, I said it before, that I am in favour of it, but if my Prime Minister is more concerned about getting the Gay Vote, then keeping the billion dollar entrepreneurs in the country, then he is a moron.

No value in having a country totally acceptant of gay marriage, when you're financially in the hole.



There is a difference between not thinking it is natural, and being opposed. I personally don't see two men kissing as natural as a Man & Women kissing. I'm not against it, but in my upbringing I don't see it as the same. Doesn't mean I am opposed to it though.

Anyone who doesn't think it's natural clearly doesn't give a fuck about nature.

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Don't think it's natural. I have gay friends and lesbian friends, I don't voice my opinion to them of course, that would be rude.

How can you not think it's natural is my question? I would expect to find no homosexual behaviour in nature, if it's not natural yet nature will not agree with your opinion. In order to say "not natural" one has to be willingly ignorant and ignore nature all together.

[Gheld]

Anyone who doesn't think it's natural clearly doesn't give a fuck about nature.
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How can you not think it's natural is my question? I would expect to find no homosexual behaviour in nature, if it's not natural yet nature will not agree with your opinion. In order to say "not natural" one has to be willingly ignorant and ignore nature all together.

I'd suggest ignoring nature based arguments all together. Any argument in which nature is brought up assumes that humans are either above or below nature (and not equal to) which means that the argument is based on the existence of the supernatural, which means "natural vs. unnatural" is a faith based argument.

[MerinPally]

I'd suggest ignoring nature based arguments all together. Any argument in which nature is brought up assumes that humans are either above or below nature (and not equal to) which means that the argument is based on the existence of the supernatural, which means "natural vs. unnatural" is a faith based argument.

Jut refer him to a link I posted earlier but there's a huge page on wikipedia documenting homosexuality in animals and there's loads of cases dating back til like 1900, involving birds and primates and even farmyard animals. Whether its nature or not doesn't come into it because so many species exhibit it that it becomes an equalizing effect in itself for the purposes of sexuality.

[nameuser]

I don't know but it seems like you aren't allowed to express your opinion if you are against gay marriage on this forum? Or am I wrong?

[Deleted]

I don't know but it seems like you aren't allowed to express your opinion if you are against gay marriage on this forum? Or am I wrong?

Why come into a thread celebrating something with the sole intention of bashing it? I don't go into the football threads saying how much I hate the game, same thing applies here.

[Themius]

I don't know but it seems like you aren't allowed to express your opinion if you are against gay marriage on this forum? Or am I wrong?

Well the reasons for being against gay marriage lie in ignorance and religion and bigotry that likely comes from ignorance or religion. Do you think a topic expressing how Asians shouldn't be allowed to marry based on your bigoted opinion of them?

[Austilias]

Why come into a thread celebrating something with the sole intention of bashing it? I don't go into the football threads saying how much I hate the game, same thing applies here.

Thread and echo chambers are two very different things.

[Aspect of Death]

How can you not think it's natural is my question? I would expect to find no homosexual behaviour in nature, if it's not natural yet nature will not agree with your opinion. In order to say "not natural" one has to be willingly ignorant and ignore nature all together.

Most people who are against it is highly religious, and they would argue it's not natrual because (men here) the sex is not natrual, even if man and woman have that type of sex. Haveing normal sex (woman and man) is producing children, everything else is "wrong".

^That is not my opinion though, but i have had discussions with very religious people before on this matter, and they won't budge.
I do have a lesbian friend, and i'm not against it, as i think everyone should be able to live their life without haveing others judge their choice. However yday i watched a episode of spartacus, sex scene with two men. While i don't judge gay people or think of them any less than anyone else, i didn't really enjoy watching it, while my girlfriend however said i was silly for looking away and she said it was sexy and cute.

There is something diffrent to actually watch it, if i see two men kissing on the street, or two straight men kissing drunk at a party (wtf Norwegians) my brain see it, but it's telling me it's wrong. While at the same time i tell myself "shut up they love eachother and it's right!". I would never kiss another man tho, (like norwegians) sometimes do. Men flirting with me is awkward, but i don't rage at them for trying though.

I'm from a family who is 100% against it though, while i say im not, there is still some "blindedness" left in me to really accept it, and its fucking annoying to not being able to be okey with it.

I don't know but it seems like you aren't allowed to express your opinion if you are against gay marriage on this forum? Or am I wrong?

Tbh we should discuss why people are against it. If we never talk about it, we will never resolve the issue of people that are against it.

[Themius]

I couldn't have a serious discussion with someone against gay marriage and being gay in general. You have to be closed minded an willingly ignorant, and I prefer to not talk to people like that.

The only things they can say is "in my opinion" or "it's my belief" or "my feeling" and all I can think is... "fuck your short sighted ignorant beliefs, you can have your beliefs all you want but don't force them on the country, that's just being a giant douche"

[s_bushido]

Good for Uruguay.

The "we have more important things to worry about!" argument has to be right up there with the "is it natural?" one in terms of irrelevance. They're just smoke screens desperately thrown up to try to distract people from a fairly straightforward civil rights issue.

[Taurenburger]

I don't know but it seems like you aren't allowed to express your opinion if you are against gay marriage on this forum? Or am I wrong?

There is no problem at all with being against gay marriage. However, there are two reasons why your post was not allowed:
1. Your post was unconstructive.
2. Your post was, in my opinion and my co-moderators, to bash homos. This is not allowed on this forum.

[smelltheglove]

2. Your post was, in my opinion and my co-moderators, to bash homos. This is not allowed on this forum.

sorry, but this cracked me up

[Aspect of Death]

I couldn't have a serious discussion with someone against gay marriage and being gay in general. You have to be closed minded an willingly ignorant, and I prefer to not talk to people like that.

The only things they can say is "in my opinion" or "it's my belief" or "my feeling" and all I can think is... "fuck your short sighted ignorant beliefs, you can have your beliefs all you want but don't force them on the country, that's just being a giant douche"

You should though. If they say "in my opinion", "It's my belief" or "my feelings", you should say what you think of it. Most people that are against it only see their own side of the issue, they do not see the other side. So makeing them hear or see the other side, then they will slowly change their mind.
As my mother as an example is (religious) and is against it, we have had discussions about it many times, the topic came up due to me being friend with a lesbian (or she is bisexual). But i can tell you she is not so against it now after she have heard about the "feelings of others".

It's also not so common (atleast i haven't seen many gay/lesbians couples often), so showing it on television is good aswell, so people grow "used" to it. Alteast it helps people to open up to it.

[nameuser]

There is no problem at all with being against gay marriage. However, there are two reasons why your post was not allowed:
1. Your post was unconstructive.
2. Your post was, in my opinion and my co-moderators, to bash homos. This is not allowed on this forum.

Ridiculous. I was in no way bashing gays. I have nothing against them.

[Kunz]

Gays are entitled to be miserable too.

haha awesome comment :-)

[Deleted]

haha awesome comment :-)

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