I dont even know if I should laugh or cry about this miningpick moaning. It would take like many YEARS to go a few coppers plus... lol. How sad
Last edited by Freyl; 2013-04-18 at 10:07 AM.
Last edited by Drakhar; 2013-04-18 at 03:08 PM.
It's very sad, but also typical. They'd rather argue for hours on how this is definitely an advantage, knowing that their connotation is that Anet have crossed some unspeakable line and the game is going P2W, while other people have to repeat like robots that you'd have to farm nodes as your full time job for years before the position they are trying to say exists even comes true.
It all boils down to the fact that it is an advantage in the most literal sense of the word, but nothing that is going to affect the game in any meaningful way. And that's why talking about this for a bajillion pages has been mostly a waste of all of our time.
Hmmmm... Yeah you've yet to point out how the stance of "this item provides an in game advantage" is wrong. Because you can't.
Dunno bout that, I've enjoyed myself. It's only a waste of time to people who can't express their point because they have no ground to stand on.And that's why talking about this for a bajillion pages has been mostly a waste of all of our time.
Here, I'll sum it up:
No matter which way you slice it, this item crosses a line. A line that they have already flirted with to a dangerous degree since launch.
Last edited by Drakhar; 2013-04-18 at 03:20 PM.
It's been addressed multiple times, it changes the game regardless of your unconnected "arguments." Between the acquiescence of people like you and the (assumed) success in sales of this item, ANet will be encouraged to continue with this trend. If the backlash is hard enough then maybe they'll reconsider, as they've done with a handful of other things. Luckily, there are enough cognizant players around to realize that.
Alright, settle down.
It's fine to talk about the pickaxe &/or the cash shop in this thread. There is no need to be insulting, passive aggressive or belittle anyone whatsoever in doing so. Check your passions at the doors.
This ain't world war 3 in text on the MMO-C forums.
Also, I'm not being a white knight, I actually am disappointed in the game I waited 7 years for but this is just beyond stupid.
Saving you time and effort is an advantage over people that dont buy it, no matter how small. Anet promised that there would be 0 items that give any kind of advantage, period. Unless this item becomes attainable in game without gems, then they have effectively gone back on their word, thus starting the snowball effect. Saving you time an effort at the cost of gems as the only attainable method is an advantage, regardless if you think the in game gold cost conversion is worth it or not.
Its looking like China might be selling legendary weapons in their gem store according to their beta. Whats to stop the US/EU servers?
Last edited by woodydave44; 2013-04-18 at 11:55 PM.
Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein
Last edited by Doozerjun; 2013-04-18 at 11:51 PM.
That China selling legendaries link was a fake.
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/foru...st#post1855812Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein
This whole thing is like if I were to go to the WoW forum and have a hissyfit about how Blizzard sells mounts in their Blizzard store saying it was pay-to-win since they save money on flightpath fees. Not only would they laugh me off their forum, but their laughter would knock me clean off the interwebz.
I this thread deserves a vid of the pick in slowmo action!
You're just looking to argue about something. Good luck.
Thing is that people expected that the shop wouldn't give any sort of advantage, be it monetary or convenience... If it's "novelty" stuff like skins/char slots/minis/dye packs/... people don't really care.
This however does give a double advantage. I agree that the pay off will become less and less over time etc.. and that it isn't a big deal as long as it stays with things like this.
Some people go in a manic fear of anet suddenly going the p2w route, but it's highly unlikely to happen.