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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Ok figure its time to post now that ive talked to a few of my Boston police dept buddies. First off all the FBI really dropped the ball here. They knew there was an attack coming which is why there was hightened security. They also knew about the older brother. Under boston pds nose they tried.to arrest the Thursday morning without backup. This from a reliable soirse. They lost them as they bailed. Its the reason why it took so long for the pictures to be released. Next they were not robbing the 7/11 it was just bad timing as someone else was robbing it. The big time gap comes in here with the supposed robbery and the chase. The MIT cop was on campus over seeing the Nuclear power station there. That was their next target. Granted the bombs would have done shit to it but they were trying. They were trying to melt down the power station, reason why hes actually charged with WMD. The FBI failed baddly they knew of immenent danger and did nothing. RIP and may God be with you to the victims but this should never have happened. The FBI majorly fucked this one up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    It will be interesting to see how Russia plays this depending on what evidence comes to light. Russia may be more prone to comply since they have had problems with Chechnya themselves, so we never wind up in scenario 2b.

    I'm afraid that after the lies told by the political left about the Iraq invasion that common sense goes out the window and we take the "wimp clause", deciding to do nothing about Chechnya, even if the strongest links are found.
    But do the Russian's care about the Boston bombs? would their actions be in response to the bombings or to justify them dealing with the Chechens for the crimes on Russia.

    How much information did Russia presumably give to USA when they had concerns. USA may not consider that area as a hotbed for terrorists and pay very little attention to it, where as the Russians see that as an area of more importance. The failure on the American part may weaken their opinion to let the Americans investigate and do it themselves.

    All honesty there is very little that the US can do without Russia's permission in the area

    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    I wasn't picking on his grammar. I was picking on his inability to connect the dots by claiming, that dropping bags at the place of the explosion, having bombs at their house, killing a cop, running from the police and having a history with the FBI is not a mere coincidence that you can blow off. The spelling part was just food coloring.
    Although it probably won't matter since he will probably get a newbie lawyer defending him, but weren't the bombs found at his brother's house, his brother has the history(which says he isn't to point that out a terrorist) with the FBI, his brother is the one who appears to be the more religious and secluded one. Running comes hand in hand with killing a cop, but which one killed the cop? If it's found to be the brothers gun that shot him, the other could of ran in fear and the whole thing escalated.

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    I wont give names, but they are BPD street and k9 unit cops who were working during the search. Its,the rumor going around the police dept.

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    They got him on conspiracy to commit which lets the DA charge him with all the crimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    If my Government has several definitions but one type of definition is more popular it would make more sense to use that one. There's a reason why when shady hook happened no one on the super long thread said anything about terrorism but once this happened in this forum this was marked as terrorism, the reason is quite simple and you're just arguing for the sake of it now, and it's going nowhere.
    Let's just say that I won't change my mind and you won't change yours, agree to disagree if I might say and leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madkitty View Post
    Although it probably won't matter since he will probably get a newbie lawyer defending him, but weren't the bombs found at his brother's house, his brother has the history(which says he isn't to point that out a terrorist) with the FBI, his brother is the one who appears to be the more religious and secluded one. Running comes hand in hand with killing a cop, but which one killed the cop? If it's found to be the brothers gun that shot him, the other could of ran in fear and the whole thing escalated.
    Well then he can be charged with terrorism accessory, which is terrorism.

    Then again, there is video evidence of him putting the bag down (which unfortunately is not being released for some silly reason). I wish there were photos of him putting/keeping his bag on the grown near the child that he supposedly killed....

    Oh wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Then again, there is video evidence of him putting the bag down (which unfortunately is not being released for some silly reason).
    The FBI won't release the most damning and crucial evidence until trial. Pretty standard.

    Until then, we're going to have conspiracy theories up the ass about how they were framed, or individuals trying to shift blame etc.
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    No its pretty obvious the did it. The cover ups of the FBI fuck ups is pretty glaring though. Gotta love hearing stories from people involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Well then he can be charged with terrorism accessory, which is terrorism.

    Then again, there is video evidence of him putting the bag down (which unfortunately is not being released for some silly reason). I wish there were photos of him putting/keeping his bag on the grown near the child that he supposedly killed....

    Oh wait.
    Photoshop = power!
    red circle (down) have child legs on it without owner...
    (Only half body)

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    Quote Originally Posted by greeeed View Post
    Photoshop = power!
    red circle (down) have child legs on it without owner...
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    I'm not seeing it.

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    I don't get the conspiracy theories. A bunch of posters and I were on the police scanner from the point the chase began. I have never heard of a manhunt that had this much access for the public. People were yelling at posters who were posting pictures of cops formations as they were approaching a house of interest. That's how pervasive it got...

    The event it self was not only televised, but had a plethora of footage of the event from by standers. There are pictures or video of both suspects carrying the bags, planting the bags and even running from the explosion.

    It's like that Chappell show sketch about R-Kelly... Accept, we do have everything from cop to grandma footage of the event... How closed minded do you have to be to ignore all of, to believe what you want...

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    Quote Originally Posted by greeeed View Post
    Photoshop = power!
    red circle (down) have child legs on it without owner...
    (Only half body)
    I guess this closed minded is how...
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    Quote Originally Posted by greeeed View Post
    Photoshop = power!
    red circle (down) have child legs on it without owner...
    (Only half body)
    What? What half body.

    Theres only the fence, and the fence sign.

    We could be back to the Iraq scenario here. So how about the following scenarios staring us in the face. What should the United States' course of action be in each one?

    1. We definitively find a link between the bombers and some terrorist training camp / group in Chechnya.

    1a. Russia fully cooperates with our investigation.

    1b. Russia does not fully cooperate with our investigation.

    1c. Russia prevents us from investigating.
    Chechnya is Russian sovereign territory, which means its completely off-limits to any non-sanctioned USA investigation. There is nothing to be done in scenarios 1b and 1c except hope that US diplomats are worth their weight in gold.

    Or just give Russians intel and let them handle it on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greeeed View Post
    Photoshop = power!
    red circle (down) have child legs on it without owner...
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    Ah now I see it, the child's legs are next to that movie camera. This proves this was filmed in a Hollywood studio, right next to the fake moon set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashnazg View Post
    What? What half body.

    Theres only the fence, and the fence sign.
    Because there is another bomber... In the bushes by a gravelly road....

    http://youtu.be/tBz3PqA2Fmc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    No its pretty obvious the did it. The cover ups of the FBI fuck ups is pretty glaring though. Gotta love hearing stories from people involved.
    What cover-ups has the FBI been involved in during this attack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    There are pictures or video of both suspects carrying the bags, planting the bags and even running from the explosion.
    And then we have the victim of the carjacking, who has testified that the brothers said something along the lines of "Did you see that bombing in Boston? We did that...We're serious."

    Yeah, that's called a confession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windwalker View Post
    Ah now I see it, the child's legs are next to that movie camera. This proves this was filmed in a Hollywood studio, right next to the fake moon set.
    Clear evidence the moon landing was staged:
    http://youtu.be/wY6insZjCfU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvolcanoes View Post
    What cover-ups has the FBI been involved in during this attack?

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    And then we have the victim of the carjacking, who has testified that the brothers said something along the lines of "Did you see that bombing in Boston? We did that...We're serious."

    Yeah, that's called a confession.
    Read my post at the top of the page. It explains all the cover ups. They were going after the Mit nuclear power station next, they didnt rob the 7/11, they were funded and with the private security hired the knew a nuclear attack was coming. Also they knew who these guys were but wanted to get them on their own until they botched the attempted arrest. This is a terrorist cell.

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    Im agreeing they did it. They are covering up other stuff.

    Infracted: Please refrain from conspiracy theory like discussion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Read my post at the top of the page. It explains all the cover ups. They were going after the Mit nuclear power station next, they didnt rob the 7/11, they were funded and with the private security hired the knew a nuclear attack was coming. Also they knew who these guys were but wanted to get them on their own until they botched the attempted arrest. This is a terrorist cell.
    They were going after the nuclear power plant at MIT, which is why private security was at marathon? How does that make sense to you...

    Another example of how closed minded this is. You are willing to ignore that there is and has been security like this at all large events in US for 12 years. You have to close your mind to the reality of the post 9/11 world, to jump to a conclusion that instead they were there for a cover up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Read my post at the top of the page. It explains all the cover ups. They were going after the Mit nuclear power station next, they didnt rob the 7/11, they were funded and with the private security hired the knew a nuclear attack was coming. Also they knew who these guys were but wanted to get them on their own until they botched the attempted arrest. This is a terrorist cell.
    The problem with your post is that it's relying on 2nd hand information based on rumors. Does that sound like legitimate information to you?

    Another problem is that street level cops, hell even sergeants, don't have access to specific FBI information.

    Another problem is that it is well known that local police departments, major cities like Boston especially, dislike the FBI. So relying on the information of one department shifting blame to another is about as biased as it gets.

    Basically, your information lacks sources, lacks credibility, and should be dismissed by everyone that reads it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Im agreeing they did it. They are covering up other stuff.
    Even in your explanation, why would they cover anything up, when your issue is that they were prepared for the bombing? You are actually saying, that the evidence the government knew about, but did not act on, was the extra private security at the event. They are covering up that they were not prepared by bringing in private security?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvolcanoes View Post
    Basically, your information lacks sources, lacks credibility, and should be dismissed by everyone that reads it.
    It also contradicts it self. The proof that government knew about it, but did not prepare, is the private security they hired to prepare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvolcanoes View Post
    The problem with your post is that it's relying on 2nd hand information based on rumors. Does that sound like legitimate information to you?

    Another problem is that street level cops, hell even sergeants, don't have access to specific FBI information.

    Another problem is that it is well known that local police departments, major cities like Boston especially, dislike the FBI. So relying on the information of one department shifting blame to another is about as biased as it gets.

    Basically, your information lacks sources, lacks credibility, and should be dismissed by everyone that reads it.
    Believe what you want but all the evidence falls into place with the events. The time from when they said the had images to the release. An MIT cop first on scene at an outside robbery, the amount of private security with radiation testers, the time from supposed robbery to shootoutwhat the drove 4 miles in over an hour, why they had bombs on them,in a hijacked car. Why did they have bombs with them?

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    They are covering up the fact that they failed to apprehend leading to the death of an officer and the fact that they targeted a nuclear station.

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