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    Tortos 10 hc Help

    hi
    we tried tortos 10 hc last week but we couldnt get anywhere close .
    we used kitting tac ,we tried with monk and DK prob with our monk was he said he cant take agro when bats landing he need MD from hunter wich we dont have in raid and we had some random dead healer/shadow priest so we asked our DK to start kite and HB bats when they are still in air went better but DK had not enough speed to kite new group and old group on quick at some point. is it worth to kite ? if not how u deal with bat damge they just destroy tank
    or if there is any sugestion for our monk to help him how to get agro from new bats will help alot .
    we use 3 healer : monk( can be pala) disc shamy
    5 dps: lock mage elesham dk shadow priest
    2 tank : warrior (boss tank)
    kiter: monk (he can be secend tank as druid )

    thanks

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    We did it like this with a dk tank on adds and warr tank on boss.
    We made sure dk tank had a full shield when going in to grab adds.
    We rotated 1 external on him for each wave.
    After he picked them up he dragged them to the warrior tank in melee, when they were in position there, we used aoe stuns. Shockwave/binding shot.
    If you have an extra shell at this point, it might be worth kicking it in, for extra dps on both tortos and teh adds.
    At the end of the stuns the adds was either dead or kited to the other side of tortos depending on the dps on them.
    In our case it felt better killing them rather than kiting them.(we tried both)

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    so u think its better to take druid in and tank bats and kill them ?

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    Doesnt matter what tank you have, but only tank them with big cds up, after that, stun them and if they arent dead then, kite them to the other side of tortos while melee can cleave etc.

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    kk ty will try that

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    You have 3 options for tortos HC.

    1) Solo tank (prot pala preferred), bats must die before quake or must be stunned for quake
    2) Two tank, 2nd tank only takes bats, bats must die before quake or must be stunned for quake
    3) one tank + kite, kiter picks up bats and kites, bats never get in melee range.

    Personally we tried 1 and 3, solo tanking felt harder than just having a monk kite for the entire time. Monk shouldn't have any threat issues since they can spam dizzying haze from range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winkle View Post
    You have 3 options for tortos HC.

    1) Solo tank (prot pala preferred), bats must die before quake or must be stunned for quake
    2) Two tank, 2nd tank only takes bats, bats must die before quake or must be stunned for quake
    3) one tank + kite, kiter picks up bats and kites, bats never get in melee range.

    Personally we tried 1 and 3, solo tanking felt harder than just having a monk kite for the entire time. Monk shouldn't have any threat issues since they can spam dizzying haze from range.
    yea monk was great but we had some randome death when dizzying haze wasnt hit groud when bats was on healer , did u have hunter MD bats to him ?

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    Of course hunter or rogue for MD on kiter is a must for that strat. And honestly, no reason to 3 heal this.
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    - 2 heal it. Pally/Disc.
    - 2 tanks. Warrior/Monk. Monk on boss, warrior on adds.
    - Warrior can get all adds he just needs to be smart about predicting which person they are on. Usually healer or spriest.
    - Have all stuns available, and use them appropriately on bats when needed to get away to refresh shield.
    - Kill bats before next quake or close to it.
    - Rinse/repeat.

    Why monk on boss? Because EB is insanely crazy for Snapping Bite as it can be dodged entirely. Add in guard and Crystal Shell and it is a complete joke.

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    i take it we should ignore kiting tac as we dont have MD and just go for kill bat tac. our monk isnt that gear he is like 495 ilvl we just geared him to be a kiter but i think SD druid on boss will do the same .

    cheers for reply.
    Last edited by mmoce3e5db4a0e; 2013-04-17 at 05:25 PM.

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    a 495 tank will most likely be found wanting on this boss, in my personal experience. it's rough on 505+

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    We do Tortos with 3 Heals, 2 Tanks, 5 DPS. 1 Healer does the kicking. Battank and a melee are nuking the bats. 2 Healing Setup is only viable if you have 70% slow in the group imo. Slowing the turtles is the most important part there

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    - anyone can upload power auras for tracking shield, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gynshon View Post
    - 2 heal it. Pally/Disc.
    - 2 tanks. Warrior/Monk. Monk on boss, warrior on adds.
    - Warrior can get all adds he just needs to be smart about predicting which person they are on. Usually healer or spriest.
    - Have all stuns available, and use them appropriately on bats when needed to get away to refresh shield.
    - Kill bats before next quake or close to it.
    - Rinse/repeat.

    Why monk on boss? Because EB is insanely crazy for Snapping Bite as it can be dodged entirely. Add in guard and Crystal Shell and it is a complete joke.
    Monk is far and away the best healing class on tortos. The other doesn't matter. And dodging bite is a vengeance/dps loss; tank dmg taken isn't an issue anyway.

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    not got a power auras, but heres a weak auras

    b4vmErLxtfMxu5fDEn1CEnvmUqJl34coEnvBEnfzEnfzErLxtn2BVXgzVDNBEjKxtH3tMz2CLrNxgHdnZKZm3aJmXG dn3ednYqJxM1snW41uS9wyK5fvEnLCVXwzErLxt1wDSrxAErLx05fDErNxtL3tMz2CLrNxgHtoWuJm2yZn5utoWudm YqJxM1cn141uYv2zP9MBuLhCL51uPn2BU51uPrMxtnMC5nhDHX2COvgBS51u0jxANDwzY5fvEnLBH1wzF9gCLjxy09 MCEnvp941u1nxzF5wyTvMxc51uZvNyJ9wDUrNxc51uUfwBL51udjxEZrxyS5hytHwzSXMxtrwzIvNzMrvEWvMxtHuq s1KrvXKxtzwDSX2CJfMBEjKx051uHrgzPrxAV5wyS9fDYL2zNvMCZ5fvErNxt5wDTrLCPD2zLj3CE5umErNxtzNxof dnWaJx05Lx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dariussv View Post
    - anyone can upload power auras for tracking shield, please?
    It's best to track it in grid/raidframes [especially as a healer]; I have one indicator for them having the debuff, and one for when the shield is full.

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    Actually i need it for tanking and dont want to use addition addon for it. Using standard raid frames + power auras (when needed) + SUF buf/debuffs indicators for tracking. Maybe i should switch powa for weak auras finally ?
    Last edited by mmocccb71a5d51; 2013-04-18 at 12:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsoern View Post
    We do Tortos with 3 Heals, 2 Tanks, 5 DPS. 1 Healer does the kicking. Battank and a melee are nuking the bats. 2 Healing Setup is only viable if you have 70% slow in the group imo. Slowing the turtles is the most important part there
    Did it this week without a warlock, and a DK slowing the turtles, and there was no problem at all 2 healing it. Most wipes comes from misdirect fails and kiting fails if they happen. However my hps was a lot lower due to more movement, but still was not a problem.
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    Actually a monk kiter doesn't even need a misdirect. I was frustrated with our tanks and went BrM for the first time ever for this fight and kited without a misdirect. There were 2 bat spawns where they were on our Tortos tank for 2 or 3 seconds (paladin, would be harder without one, but you could do an h-pal righteous fury healing for a similar effect and have BoP ready), but that was only because our warlock was awful at understanding when to stun and I had to essentially do it all myself.

    Once we switched from trying to kill bats to kiting, it went down in 30 minutes.

    Our kill vid:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=AU9F9Xsh4Zo

    Some tricks are using ZS, using statue provoke, and using chi torpedo.
    Last edited by Thedave; 2013-04-18 at 06:54 PM.
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