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It will suck :/The only way they grow Rift is F2P.
Maybe faster content patches will fix it? :/ (If it's still possible)
When Tera went F2P they actually gained subs and revenue. Tera is quite busy now in player activity across the board than when it was P2P. Not just one or two areas either.
P2P is a really tough sell in the current market. There is only room for so many MMOs in that tier. By in large, most people are not going to pay for World of Warcraft twice if you follow my meaning.
I expect they have a window of the remaining year to rectify that perception, but with the continued need to baby Defiance I just don't see that happening. I think the could remain financially viable, providing a service, if they did utilize something very similar to LotRO's model. Future content could be sold piecemeal, with most of the leveling game being provided for free.
Now granted I pay for both right now, but without a guild capable of doing the 20-man my Rift time has diminished from every day since SL launched to raid nights only. I haven't run a dungeon in weeks, I ignore zone events despite needing the rep, I'm one Hunt V away from getting all of them and don't do it anymore despite needing the rep, just because it's even more mind-numbingly boring than WoW was at Mists launch with Golden Lotus gating. At least with LFR in WoW I can enjoy some minor raiding, in Rift I can't even do that since my guild isn't capable (I can only assume that must have been how TBC felt for the lackluster guilds).
Tera F2P > LOTRO.There is always the potential a company will make a poor F2P transition [TOR]. Though Trion can also make a spectacular F2P transition ala Tera or LOTRO.
And Tera isn't getting fast content updates, after F2P launch they didn't get any (correct me if I'm mistaken)When Tera went F2P they actually gained subs and revenue. Tera is quite busy now in player activity across the board than when it was P2P. Not just one or two areas either.
Yes I understand you, but when being premium gaves u some advantages over F2P it gives me some different feeling, I prefer sub when everyone is equal + sub games have better content quality, support & etc.P2P is a really tough sell in the current market. There is only room for so many MMOs in that tier. By in large, most people are not going to pay for World of Warcraft twice if you follow my meaning.
Yeah I really don't think going full f2p would be good for Rift. I do think that 1-50 free to play would be good though. Or 1-49 at least I think they had that in Korea or something. I know that is is hard to sell a full sub game these days. I do prefer the sub option for the same reasons you do. Not to say that there isn't any really good f2p games out there.
I am under the impression that they have gotten new updates, one major one involving pvp and something about a dungeon.
Also, if you think that not getting content updates is bad, wouldn't you say Lotro < tera? I don't follow. Lotros been f2p for years now and keeps coming out with new content.
And that last bit about p2p offering "better content quality" is extremely subjective. I have many months of Rift left on my account but I am playing f2p games because I feel they have "better content quality".
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Sadly, I agree. There's been nothing to really grab people and bring players back since SL. It's sad, but with how fast they patch(ed) you knew it was going to come sooner or later.
My server (threesprings) is dead. As much as I don't want it, especially since I'm still subbed till April 4th NEXT YEAR, I think it's time. At least make it buy-to-play, of not free-to-play.
i play the game from beta. and i am still enjoying it. Playing every day for some hours if i can.
Still plenty of things to do that enjoys me ( hunt rare mobs,still need reputation with factions of SL , lots of artifact hunt and doing many expert randoms to upgrade my expert gear cause i dont raid.) although i believe that 2.2 was very light on content and 2.3 should come soon
I think they really need to push the boat out with 2.3. Denodrome needs to be awesome, at least on the scale of Ember Isle to keep people interested. Having a 10 man as the first raid of the next tier seems odd, but I can see why it is - not so much because they want to make a 10 man the first raid in the tier, but because they need to get the next tier out as soon as possible to keep the raiders interested. Most of the serious guilds dont really seem to give a crap about 10 mans, but they'll run it to gear up for the next 20 man if the loot is better than whats currently out. If Dendrome is a letdown, I see a lot of people walking away from the game.
They need to communicate a bit better to their players in my opinion. Dalgar says he doesnt like putting information out "till its ready" which is fine, but its pretty obvious players are getting angsty, and just releasing a few tidbits would go a long way to helping quell that.
Yeah I agree Dendrome needs to be awesome. We have been waiting too long for a good chunk of new content and it does seem many people are on the edge of walking away for good. If 2.3 sucks it will be very bad for Rift and I am not sure if it could recover. I do also agree that they need to communicate more. I understand about not wanting to give out info until it is ready. But we need to hear something! Though to be fair we are getting that livestream this week. I just hope we get some actual info on stuff in the patch and not just lore.
Could of Trion planned this all along, with making/allowing you to pay for a full year sub in bulk with Storm Legion? Cash in big early ??
Just case people did leave during the lack of content, They would have there money already.
Last edited by Arbs; 2013-04-21 at 07:36 PM.