Read post again.
I said it has it's uses, if you have multiple banners.
You then got angry because you think you're the best warrior in the world, and proceeded to froth at the mouth.
It is good, situationally, with multiple banners. IE: Primordius with multiple banners and crit buff stacks.
Stop getting angry, stop thinking you're the greatest warrior in the world.
Sinnermighty: Reck glyph may have a use finally ^^
Me: It already does if you have multiple banners ^^
It has its uses, if you have multiple banners.
I never said it's the best glyph, or it's good, or anything close.
AFTER I proved you wrong many times over on other posts.
Oh and it doesn't have a use with many banners since you save the 2nd banner for the 2nd CS phase, in which case reck is over, so you're wrong there too, which is where you first said it was good, and that you rank well with it (as if that proves it's good.) Thus, you've been wrong every time.
It doesn't have a use this tier on any fight- even prim since you won't consistently get enough 3+crit stacks to make it worth it UNLESS you're taking a risk and counting on RNG to try and rank- in which case it isn't better, it's a gamble, since consistency and good fundamentals will provide more long-term benefit overall.
This is how you handle several banners in one raid group.
"Horrack, if you have two warriors the 2nd warrior will simply delay banner for the 2nd colossus smash. The 2nd warrior will use ALL cds on the first CS, then just banner on the 2nd. Then, when the next set of 3 minute cds come up, just delay them 20 seconds to re-sync with banner again."
In other words, you still haven't shown that it has one good use this entire tier- since I and other's have shown how every example you've given has been wrong. Now you're just trying to save face by bandying insults instead of admitting that you were wrong.
TL;DR, It has no use with multiple banners since you delay the 2nd anyways.
Last edited by Darkfriend; 2013-04-24 at 10:52 PM.
Not a raid DPS increase, might be personally, but you don't build a raid around 1 person.
You haven't proved me wrong, what I said is correct. Recklessness has its uses with mutliple banners. That's it. Stop getting angry and work on your progress.
With that said it would be interesting to see how a Hit / Expertise > Crit > Haste > Mastery Build would work compared to the Hit / Expertise > Crit> Mastery > Haste
"There are only a few specs in the game that have considerable synergy with skull banner. Considerable meaning that the timing of the banner itself impacts their dps by 200+.
Specs that care about skull banner timing, generally with strong personal cds, and have the ability to get crits on demand. Semi-ranked.
1: Fire Mages
2: Frost Mages
3: Fury/Arms Warriors
4: Elemental shaman
5: All hunters (Debatable, since a lot of raids don't allow their hunters to use stampede due to the massive lag it can cause.)
Pretty much every other spec gains something from skull banner, but they really don't give a !@#$ when you use it. There may be marginal gains here or there, and I may have missed one spec, but at the end of the day your skull banner isn't going to change their damage significantly.
Now, the key to the specs listed above, is that all of them only care about skull banner within small time frames ranging from 6-12 seconds. Your first raid banner will cover a majority of them because they all tend to use their major cds in the first few seconds of a fight. After that, most of those specs do not gain or lose significant damage based on when you use the 2nd banner.
EXCEPT fury warriors. Specifically yourself, but also any other warriors you may have in your raid. Due to Sudden Death procs, Arms is not quite as concerned about the 2nd banner.
Using skull banner outside of colossus smash is almost the same as not using skull banner at all. Our procs aren't super-reliable and we generally aren't in a good position rage-wise to spend a lot. Fury colossus smashes are super-predictable, as almost every good warrior uses it exactly every 20-21 seconds.
Combine all of that, and the end result is that you will delay that 2nd skull banner for colossus smash for the most raid dps."
TL;DR, you're still wrong. As for personal progression, that point isn't even worth addressing. If you honestly were concerned that my progress had some impact on my knowledge I would, instead you use it as a personal attack so it's simply funny. The best warrior I know is only 2/13H. (From the math side too, I still <3 you brak/sinner.)
Last edited by Darkfriend; 2013-04-24 at 10:56 PM.
Run with fire/ele/hunter/moonkin
Our hunter uses stamp
Please stop trying, you have nothing to teach me, no matter how "superior" you think your knowledge is.
The real TL;DR is that you're trying to tell everybody how to play with math to back you up, no ranks, no progress, just you shouting loudest that you are right because you read something somewhere. End of the day I'm doing fine and if you REALLY wanted to "measure" which one of us is "bad" (which is the only reason I'm even discussing this with you, because you randomly called me "bad") then you would deffinitely turn up as the bad one. Sorry.
Last edited by Choptimus; 2013-04-24 at 11:11 PM.
You insulted first.
You are calling me bad because I said a glyph isn't totally useless, providing you have extra banners.
How can you call me bad when you can't even compare yourself to me, and haven't even seen me play, haven't done the encounter where I said the glyph could help, don't know what raid comp I run, or how my raid executes fights?
You can't. So if you think I'm "bad" because I use a glyph that is a DPS loss 99% of the time, then you're just ignorant.
Last edited by Choptimus; 2013-04-24 at 11:19 PM.
It's like watching two mentally handicapped individuals try and make coitus with a door-knob.
Cool, I'm fully aware of that. Except in our raid, with our comp, it was a DPS gain. Even if it is mathematically wrong, on paper, in your head, etc, you go ahead and call me bad?
I'm so bad I was 6k behind your bestest buddy Colission without lust, and with worse weapons and trinkets, on Ji-Kun, right?
*Reads next few post*
You're right, I should. Not sure when these forums became a place for circlejerking but whatever "discussion" you are talking about is clearly is not useful to anyone as far as I can tell.
I guess riding the coattails of videos from guilds better than you, means you can come on the warrior forums and tell everyone constantly that warriors are fine DPS (and have..."discussions") because you happen to do well in your US #38 guild though.
Although it has given me quite a chuckle; this thread is so massively derailed that it should be locked imo.
Also, you two are just flinging shit at eachother like twelve year olds.
Noone is debating your ranks or skills as a warrior Choptimus, and noone is refuting your math Darkfiend.
You both feul the Sha of Anger more than the entire Alliance and Horde combined.
As for "riding the cottails of videos", seriously? Seriously? That's your argument? I'm perfectly fine being in a US #38th (#25th actually, considering 10man and 25man are different races) guild. I could have apped and gotten into top 10 guilds if I wanted to/could afford the time, but I don't want to. My performance speaks for itself. Go away please, troll.
Best warrior haste stat topic ever. Thanks.