More nostalgia than anything, not to mention the fact that prior to TBC, there was no expansion, and it was a bunch of new things, and let you go from the world you had been on for a couple of yearsto a brand new alien world from Warcraft lore, with demons and darkness and it's main villain one of the most respected lore characters from Warcraft.
We stopped searching for monsters under our beds when we realized that they were inside us.
Tell me something, my friend. You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?
wrath was much better than bc or any other expansion. mists seems to be plagued with questionable design decisions.
I remember the endless whines about the horrendous clown gear in tbc. Nothing but hate about it. And now suddenly it was the best gear ever. Wotlk went back to matching, normally colored gear because people hated the green, yellow, purple clownsuits from tbc. So, I say nostalgia.
Classic of course liked it but there were so many bugs and unbalanced things.
I loved BC perhaps because it was the first expansion, I loved Black Temple, ZA, but the best was in my openion Karazhan.
Wrath was pretty good, but I hated the "zoned areas" and all the problems with helping others that wasnt on same step as you were. Of course I liked the Vikings meat Lotr theme.
I hated Catalysm, and it got me bored with wow. I haven't played MoP so I can't say how good / bad it were.
In my mind its BC > Lotr > Classic > Catalysm..
MGT only required 1-2 CC's at most. After a month people outgeared it and it became faceroll.You mean (some) Heroic Dungeon that require class stacking and nobody wants to attempt because of their terrible loot to effort ratio?
You mean spending months on gearing up and attuning alts for raids?
You mean some of the most annoying trash packs ever in SSC with 30 mins respawn timer?
You mean ridicoulous difficulty differences between bosses from Free Loot (Loot Reaver Akama) to straight out impossible for months like Kael thas?
You mean 9 months of farming BT and FREAKIN MH without nothing else to do other than arena? (There were no achievments)
You mean getting Glaives (=better SW progress) being based on nothing else then RNG?
You mean tons of one button specs like CH Shaman and SB Lock?
You mean Blizzard 'Bring the Player, not the Class! But don't forget to always bring 5 Shamans as many ppl as possible with Glaives and depending on the boss 5 Priests, 11 Healers or 4 Warlocks!
I did those trash packs. Luckily they were balanced after a while.
So you'd prefer Loot bosses to be buffed to like Kael, or are you crying for a nerf to a hard boss?
Achievements, like the LFG, were likely still in development and were on the way.
RNG is RNG, deal with it
I actually liked playing my CH shaman. I was mainly enh, but switched for a few bosses in SW. Compared to Vanilla, specs were 1000x better, but compared to WLK/Casualclysm/Pandaland obviously much worse off.
Class stacking wasn't as bad as you claim, unless you were on the bleeding edge, in which case I say BUCK UP.
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This is so subjective, what's epic in your mind may not reflect what the rest of the world thinks. So put another way, will there ever be another TBC? No. That story has been told. There have been a couple more apples and oranges since then, and they're all "epic" in their own right IMHO.
I liked the Mag'har in TBC, about half of Hellfire Peninsula, Zangarmarsh for a little while but got boring fast, most of Nagrand, Caverns of Time, half of Tempest Keep and Karazhan...
I thought Shattrath thing was so-so, the legion never felt like they were doing anything or posing any kind of threat and Illidan might as well not have been there.
Which is a bit odd, you know, considering he was supposedly the focus of the expansion.
The only epic thing about TBC for me, was arriving there through the portal, that music, fantastic music theme of the peninsula.
BC was by no means the "golden age" of WoW and it wasn't chock-full of "epic" moments; Kael and Illidan were well-done but Kil'jaeden felt tacked-on and even his defeat wasn't all that satisfying. Vashj also got a pretty shitty deal with a gimmicky fight and a fairly lame resolution to her story. Burning Crusade was just like every other expansion; it was memorable for the very cool things it added and disliked for the crappy things it brought about. If anything, the most "epic" experience introduced to the game was probably Cataclysm since it literally destroyed the world and introduced the first boss that's so large you fight a raid encounter on his back - does that mean that my most enjoyable time in the game was during Cataclysm? No. I liked Wrath of the Lich King the best since it added Death Knights, a class I waited for since the game was announced.
I think people remember the expansions favorably and unfavorably much less for their content and more for their circumstances as a player during that expansion. Most of my really prime raiding was done from Black Temple to Icecrown - I played with a group of twenty-five that stuck together for over four years and got a lot of cool titles and achievements in Wrath. Now? My circumstances are entirely different. Since Cataclysm I've never been in a guild that raids more than two nights a week for a few hours and I doubt I'd ever, in a few years, look on MoP and say it was my favorite era of WoW.
So stop being a crotchety asshole and accept that nostalgia is a big part of why we look upon events of the past so fondly.
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> I believe that you are correct that people should understand what nostalgia is, but using it EVERY TIME as a "COME BACK" isn't valid.
I liked TBC because it's when I started playing, but I also liked it due to the "different world" feel. Though, I liked WoTLK and like MoP all the same for different reasons. I can't wait to explore Argus though.
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It's no different from calling a spade a spade.
Thanks for the awesome sig, Lady Amuno.
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And there's the little fly in the ointment; YOU saw no drawbacks, but a lot of players did. My argument was that if you say "TBC is the best, end of.", you're stating your opinion as fact and showing how indoctrinated you are by your nostalgia because you can't accept that someone else might like WoTLK or MoP, or even Cataclysm (some people do. Not me, but some) more. There hasn't been an expansion without flaws, and if there was such an expansion, it sure as hell wasn't Cataclysm.
Thanks for the awesome sig, Lady Amuno.
Well in terms of an entire expansion I think Mists is shaping up pretty nicely. But if I go with little moments the first epic thing I felt for the game was the Belf starting zone, Then I felt the next epic thing for me was the LK fight. After that I felt when DW would show up in random places and send everything in its path to oblivion (the actual fight was like dealing with a guy who talks a lot of shit then goes down with one punch). Now I am feeling the epic from the story of each patch in Mists.
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