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  1. #161
    People dont understand that the epicness feeling came from the game actually being a RPG.

    WoW is no longer a RPG, it will no longer feel epic ever because everyone and everything is the same, the moment someone has something more than the other one, the forums explode with tears and requests of changes.

    Arena is at fault, blizzard knows it, blizzard admitted it was their biggest mistake yet they didnt do anything to change it.

    The game isnt that bad still but its no longer a RPG for sure.

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    Karazahn is frigging awesome. I can't stand most of outland though.
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  3. #163
    For me TBC was the most epic one.
    I loved the first moment when I entered the Dark Portal. I loved how all the outland zones where made, that outworldish and alienish feel still merged with the warcraft theme.
    I loved the TBC raids and it was the expansion that kept me active in raiding the most. It was the expansion that kept me in pvp the most (although not for balance, which was pretty broken back then).
    I loved the difficulty of everything back then, and how rewarding everything felt.
    Being a lore freak I remember the nerd chills i got when I reached Vahj, Kael'thas and Illidan in game.
    I loved tanking those hard heroics and having to plan every pull and asign every cc. Magister Terrace was my favourite.
    But the one thing that stands out the most in my memory is the questline that ends in Shadowmoon Valley where you are shown the moment when Ner'zhul sunders Draenor. I'll never forget how amazing that one felt. Nothing got close to that for me in later expansions because the difficulty aspect of those epic and lore rich questlines was gone in wotlk and beyond.
    Now its more like watching a cartoon than actually playing the epic moments in the game.
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    Yep WoTlk and MoP already gave me more appelling moments. I'd hold Vanilla as my nostagia tool, TBC, specially how the lore was handled didn't do anything for me.

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    Purely my own opinion here, but BC wasn't epic at damned all unless you were in an active raiding guild. The story was all over the place, and very non-cohesive, and save for Nagrand, the world was piss ugly as hell. WOTLK was epic. It had a bad guy. You saw that bad guy doing bad guy things. All through your experience in the Bad Guy's Land. You KNEW shit was going to go down, and that shit NEEDED to go down. WC3 led up to this. Finishing the fight and all that neat stuff!

    Cata was far more lackluster in that department, but it was still better than BC by virtue of being a little cohesive with the story.

    MoP is the only one that is anything close to what WOTLK brought to the table.

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    Yeah, it was called Wrath of the Lich King

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    I never played BC at max level, was levelling during that time and didn't hit 70+ until Wrath came out.
    Nothing for me will compare to the epicness of Naxxramas, Ulduar, and above all, killing the Lich King on 10 man Normal for the first time with my old guild and great friends.

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    Since server communities wont come back, no. Nobody has to give a damn about being a decent person since you're only playing through LFD,LFR and all other servermixing shit.

    There was a time where you would have to keep an reputation on the server and represent your guild which made people alot nicer.
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    BC were the best of times indeed. lollichking

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    Moments that make TBC memorable:

    -Oh wow...an x-pac! (the first)
    -We get to level to 70
    -We get to fly
    -We go to another planet
    -We step through the dark portal
    -We get new races and every faction gets a class that previous only the others had

    Just like Classic, it was the feeling of "This is new and I didn't expect it". There was few speculations ahead on forums. I was taken more by surprise and had still that sense of exploration...which ofc faded more and more since I joined MMO C. Now it is more like "We expect this and that and Blizzard better deliver". And even if they deliver in spades there seem more and more ppl who go "Well it still sucks, I expected different, meh, they should have....."
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  11. #171
    So much "lol" in this thread. People dismissing other peoples OPINION based on THEIR experiences.

    If someone loves Cataclysm then so be it. I won't agree with it but I didn't experience what that other player has experienced.

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    I loved TBC so much. Everything started there for me. I quit the guild I was in during Vanilla and made my own. Which was very succesful for years until I quit WoW on that level of play.

    It was a time of greatness and standing apart from "the common" people in TBC. You can say that I wanted to be a special snowflake. Yes I loved attunements back then. I loved gating stuff because I had the time and skill and friends to do those. I could do anything. So yes TBC is very special to me.

    But in terms of the more enjoyable lore, it was WOTLK. I was put off by the fact that everything was so easy (dungeons), but the overal experience was really what I wanted.

    So in terms of how I look at the most fun I had in WoW: WOTLK/TBC/Vanilla/Cata. But Cata has a special place in my heart too. I hated basically everything in Cata after they nerfed the dungeons to death. But I had a blast with my guild in Cata. We went hardcore mode and that was an awesome ride.

    I feel stupid for putting WOTLK first as everyone always complained about WOTLK. But the story and the way my guild developed during that time, was one of the reasons I wanted to play WoW, so yes WOTLK made that a good time for me.

  12. #172
    Ah, I love this kind of threads.

    If you liked TBC best then you have rose-tinted glasses and you live in the past and then following statement is "I think WOTLK/Cata" was best.

    OT

    Yep, I had most fun playing in TBC. Why? Because it was a great journey starting in BC heroics and ending in Sunwell killing Kil'jaiden. For me, nothing will be more epic since now journey is gone. Although, I still have a lot of fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalmar View Post
    Ah, I love this kind of threads.

    If you liked TBC best then you have rose-tinted glasses and you live in the past and then following statement is "I think WOTLK/Cata" was best.

    OT

    Yep, I had most fun playing in TBC. Why? Because it was a great journey starting in BC heroics and ending in Sunwell killing Kil'jaiden. For me, nothing will be more epic since now journey is gone. Although, I still have a lot of fun

    That's not true at all. You're missing something big. It's to the people saying "TBC WAS INDUBITABLY THE BEST, ANYONE WHO DOES NOT THINK SO CAN ROT", in other words. I liked TBC, WoTLK and I like MoP equally and for other reasons, but that doesn't mean it's fact. Some people are trying to write "TBC was best" off as factual, and that is the problem.

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    I agree, BC's strength was in its scope; specifically, the feeling it would give your average player. I recall looking at T6 players and telling my friend, "Wow, look at that nerd. ... I wish I could see Black Temple too."

    I think that mindset (the second part, anyway) was good for the game. It gave the general populace something to aspire to, a real feeling of exclusivity that they would probably never experience. And that was fine; it gave the impression that WoW really was as massive as it claims to be.

    You haven't really got that since TBC. Since then, everyone simply does harder versions of the same thing. That more casual approach is fine, too... but it does make you wonder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaelsino View Post
    I agree, BC's strength was in its scope; specifically, the feeling it would give your average player. I recall looking at T6 players and telling my friend, "Wow, look at that nerd. ... I wish I could see Black Temple too."

    I think that mindset (the second part, anyway) was good for the game. It gave the general populace something to aspire to, a real feeling of exclusivity that they would probably never experience. And that was fine; it gave the impression that WoW really was as massive as it claims to be.

    You haven't really got that since TBC. Since then, everyone simply does harder versions of the same thing. That more casual approach is fine, too... but it does make you wonder.
    I wish they could find a way to bring that feeling back... I think if we all compromise, there can be a middle point where people who are noobs still have the chance to experience lets say the first raid tier, than casuals can go to up until the 2nd and only hardcore players would have access to the final tier. I know i'm far from being explanatory here but this is just my general understanding of this issue...

  16. #176
    While TBC is my favorite expansion overall, I still think WotLK was more epic.

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    tbc is my favorite tho vanilla close second
    something like this TBC -> Vanilla -> Wotlk -> Mop -> Cata

    and it seems to be some kind of trend to hate TBC or vanilla and be one of the new cool casual kids with no patience to even stay in lets say LFR if they die once

    i dont hate ppl who came later on and dont really care when you started playing, it's just the new impatient ppl annoying me.

  18. #178
    For me it was the first time I took flight with an epic mount. Words cannot describe how good I felt at that moment. 4 days straight of wow with only 3x5 hour breaks trying to get to 70 asap then a scramble when I dinged to get the last 400g I needed for epic flight. So much win
    Have you ever stepped on a lego piece while barefoot?

    Can you recall that exquisitely piercing and utterly unforgettable pedal agony? Now imagine what would happen if you were to step on between 10 and 25 angry, well armed lego pieces which are all acting in brutal concert, and tell me how that would go for you.

    Plus they have magic and sharp objects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Servasus View Post
    This is entirely your opinion. I felt Northrend was far more immerse than Outland and that WotLK's storyline was substantially more cohesive than TBC's was. Also, I think TBC pales in comparison to what MoP has to offer concerning quality of work, the art direction, the storyline and the sheer amount of content available. Cataclysm was just a wreck.

    TBC wasn't bad. But it was the FIRST, which makes it super Rose-Tinted for a LOT of people. TBC wasn't better. It just was first.

    If we get another Burning Legion expansion, and it lives up the standards of quality and lore like MoP has, then I think it will be vastly popular among the fanbase.

    But please, there have been many things since TBC that have been far more "epic."
    Agree with every word of this. Cataclysm was definitely shocking though, put me off the game completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    There have been only a few moments/things in WoW that I would classify as epic and none of them were in TBC.
    not to mention if OP stops living in nostalgic la-la land then perhaps he can see epic moments in this current expansion.
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