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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragashii View Post
    How is this thread inaccurate when i've linked 2 different sources saying the same thing? If you’re happy with giving out your private information to the private and public sectors for security, then so be it. However, many people are not, even those with nothing to hide. It’s important to remain critical of government over-reach and control of personal and confidential information.
    It's one guy saying it. Not everyone who voted yes...not even 2 people saying it.

    My indifference to the bill is irrelevant...you said the house used boston to pass the bill...which you cannot prove beyond McCaul's statements after the fact which are more than likely just pandering to the media and the unwashed masses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ragashii View Post
    It will affect you, if they can pass this here do you honestly believe it won't pass where you live at some point? We've been fighting it since it was called SOPA, and it keeps coming back. So go ahead and think it "won't affect you".
    It won't affect me, because I frankly don't care. If one less pederast gets arrested for emailing pictures of naked 8 year old kids...even if it takes 10 years...job well done imo.
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    One individual does not equal The House of Representatives.

    That should be obvious.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvolcanoes View Post
    One individual does not equal The House of Representatives.

    That should be obvious.
    My point exactly. Now if there was a dozen of them saying the same shit, or every person suggesting a no vote was met with "why do you hate Boston?!" I'd agree with the subject...until then, it's inaccurate as fuck.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    It's one guy saying it. Not everyone who voted yes...not even 2 people saying it.

    My indifference to the bill is irrelevant...you said the house used boston to pass the bill...which you cannot prove beyond McCaul's statements after the fact which are more than likely just pandering to the media and the unwashed masses.



    It won't affect me, because I frankly don't care. If one less pederast gets arrested for emailing pictures of naked 8 year old kids...even if it takes 10 years...job well done imo.
    Let's assume for this example that you're a US citizen. So a redhead gets raped in your area and some government genius decides to look for people who show a tendancy to visit sites that feature hot redheads, redhead porn, etc. You become a suspect and who knows how far they take it. You don't have an alibi and maybe you get pointed out in a line up mistakenly and now you are in big trouble and even if found innocent your reputation takes a big hit. Shit like this happens all the time in legal systems around the world at the moment and will only get worse.

    The potential for abuse is just too large for the arguement that a couple pedophiles get caught. They are catching them already with the tools available. The argument that if you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about is sooooooo false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walbomb View Post
    Let's assume for this example that you're a US citizen. So a redhead gets raped in your area and some government genius decides to look for people who show a tendancy to visit sites that feature hot redheads, redhead porn, etc. You become a suspect and who knows how far they take it. You don't have an alibi and maybe you get pointed out in a line up mistakenly and now you are in big trouble and even if found innocent your reputation takes a big hit. Shit like this happens all the time in legal systems around the world at the moment and will only get worse.

    The potential for abuse is just too large for the arguement that a couple pedophiles get caught. They are catching them already with the tools available. The argument that if you're doing nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about is sooooooo false.
    That's a pretty far fetched scenario tbh...
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  6. #26
    Another invasion on person's privacy in the land of the "free". Why am I not surprised?
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    as I said...they might think you're weird. I don't see the problem if you're not doing heinous/illegal shit.

    w/e, doesn't affect me anyway...but this thread is inaccurate to begin with.
    "If you're not doing anything wrong" Is a TERRIBLE argument against invasion of privacy.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    Another invasion on person's privacy in the land of the "free". Why am I not surprised?
    We (as in humanity) haven't been "free" for centuries. We have all been a slave to the "dollar bill" since its inception. Money does not buy freedom, it is slavery. Those that love money do not understand its true nature. It is yet another hindrance to our growth as a species.

    I'm personally not afraid of CISPA yet. Let's see what else they try to roll out later.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    "If you're not doing anything wrong" Is a TERRIBLE argument against invasion of privacy.
    Only if your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
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    doubt it will pass in the senate and Obama has already said he would veto it (if i remember correctly)

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    If I remember correctly, this bill was vague enough that some of those (DRM supporters) for it says it needs to be revised before it being passed (yeah I'm sorry I forgot the organization's name =\)

    It's so vague and one sided that it does nothing but hurt the majority of people. There is no 'national security' uses for this, as you'd have some fun going through databases of trolling and good ol spam funnies. Misinterpretation is high and especially insider jokes get lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    Only if your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
    It is a terrible argument. not doing anything wrong doesn't mean people won't use that information in a way that can indirectly harm the individual. There is no way that the removal of privacy that CISPA will cause won't be misused. There is just too much douchebaggery going on involving higher-ups.
    Last edited by Theodon; 2013-04-18 at 09:32 PM.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    Only if your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
    It doesn't have anything to do with conspiracy theories or tinfoil hats. I don't care if I'm not doing anything wrong or not, my privacy is my privacy and the government doesn't have any right to stick it's nose into it. Again, "If you're not doing anything wrong" is a terrible argument that only excuses the government doing things that they shouldn't.

  14. #34
    You're entitled to your opinions, but you'll note that both of you are basing it on the idea that the government is inherently evil...

    Either way, my original point isn't to do with CISPA it's the OP's misleading topic.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    It doesn't have anything to do with conspiracy theories or tinfoil hats. I don't care if I'm not doing anything wrong or not, my privacy is my privacy and the government doesn't have any right to stick it's nose into it. Again, "If you're not doing anything wrong" is a terrible argument that only excuses the government doing things that they shouldn't.
    Exactly, its like saying "Well, if you aren't doing anything wrong in your house, you shouldn't mind me putting up cameras to ensure the criminals aren't making bombs in there."

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    You're entitled to your opinions, but you'll note that both of you are basing it on the idea that the government is inherently evil...

    Either way, my original point isn't to do with CISPA it's the OP's misleading topic.
    I didn't say anything of the sort, I said they don't have any right to stick their nose into my private business without probable cause.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasffion View Post
    I didn't say anything of the sort, I said they don't have any right to stick their nose into my private business without probable cause.
    Paraphrasing, more directed at Theodon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    You're entitled to your opinions, but you'll note that both of you are basing it on the idea that the government is inherently evil...

    Either way, my original point isn't to do with CISPA it's the OP's misleading topic.
    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-passing.shtml

    The main pusher very much seems to be already trying to pass it for some self-gain.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodon View Post
    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...-passing.shtml

    The main pusher very much seems to be already trying to pass it for some self-gain.
    Ok this is all neat n' stuff...I don't give a steaming fuck about CISPA, your problem not mine. My problem is with the misleading topic...

    Do I have to say it a 3rd time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TradewindNQ View Post
    Ok this is all neat n' stuff...I don't give a steaming fuck about CISPA, your problem not mine. My problem is with the misleading topic...

    Do I have to say it a 3rd time?
    If you don't care then stop engaging the discussion by directing statements at me relating to my point.

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