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More innocence today
Less Innocence today
Nether less nor more.
Innocence isn't useful. Ignorance isn't always bliss.
The monkey part of your brain that is saying "man, i just wish i could be swingin on trees all day and eatin bananas" isn't always right man!
Last edited by Willias; 2013-04-21 at 08:45 AM.
My innocence was shattered when someone used "Begs the question" incorrectly. So about 5 pages ago.
There's nothing wrong with knowing what's going on in the world, yes there will be violence, but it's been tamed down a lot compared to years ago. Also about processed food, you do have a choice in what you eat and how much you eat. The good in this world outweighs the bad by tenfolds or else we as humans would still be flinging poo at each other.
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People say things like
"When the Holocaust happen the world lost it's innocence"
"When Columbine happen America lost it's innocence"
Both stupid statements. There never was any innocence. How did we discover America? By shedding blood. Fuck let's go back to the "cave man" days. If they did exist they were killing each other over territory. Just like people have always done. How can anybody say the world is pure? The world has always been corrupt, and sure maybe it was more innocent until things like guns were created, but still. The world was never "pure and innocent" as long as people with different beliefs both existed.
I think choice is the only thing that matters. A bad person who doesnt know about the bad stuff isnt pure and innocent or someone who has been scared into submission out of fear of punishment (threatened with hell or something more earthly), a person who knows about them and chooses not to follow it on the other hand is worth much more in my eyes at least.
there is much more innocence even with internet, unless you consider consensual sex being depraved while less rapes, slavery, arranged marriages to old guys, carnal punishments, public executions, family barbecue lynchings, discrimination, honor killings etc. were ok...
we might know more, but second hand.
purity? its a different word for naivete, its something very new in our history, you cant be 'pure' if you arent happy and well fed.
Yes, there is less innocence/purity in the world. It is a bad thing. People forget about bonds between humans and only look to pleasure themselves, often at the expense of other, innocent people.
When was the last time you saw someone randomly help someone in need, with your own eyes? How many times have you thought to yourself "Not my problem"? How many times have you just turned your head the other way? How many times have you (and I) judged other people without knowing anything about them? How many times have you mocked other people's choices?
If you saw an old man fall down on the street, would you help him out? If you saw a woman (Not attractive, for this example) crying, would you go talk to her and try to help her out?
There's a serious issue where we forget who we are. We try and think we're better than the homeless guy sitting on the street while we're not. Just because someone had a streak of bad luck and couldn't manage to handle it doesn't make us better than him/her.
So, since you're asking that question, take a look in the mirror and tell me what is innocence and purity bad for.
Note: when I say "you" i mean community in general, not only you alone.
Oh and I would also like to add that the internet doesn't really have much to do with day to day "innocence".
Yes, there is less innocence, and I would argue strongly that that is a good thing.
It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.
I have no idea what innocence or purity is and especially how it is related to sexuality. I don't understand how sexually educated or open people can be considered 'unpure'. Anyway, corruption and moral depravity (whatever the heck moral is supposed to be) have always been the defining feature of the human society and internet didn't change it a bit. If anything, modern communication allows people to better educate and realise themselves.
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And besides, all these instances have nothing to do with current state of the society. You claim 'there is less innocence in the world', yet what would happen in the similar situations, say - 100 years ago?
Eh... innocence, purity? If you're talking about sexuality, yes, people lose their virginity earlier these days and have sex more often these days but I don't see why that's impure or guilty of anything. If you're talking about crimes, then no because crime rates only keep decreasing. If you're talking about the purity of the soul, I suggest you abandon that route because all that philosophy and gnosticism manage to achieve with such silly terms such as the innocence or purity of the soul is the belief that somehow that should be and is the center of all human affairs.
I get enough of this shit from my literature teacher (who has a major in philosophy as well), all she does is go on and on about what's on the inside and about the soul and yadda yadda and this makes her think everything physical and material (such as sex) is bad. My point is that thinking about the "soul" will get you nowhere, you'll get stuck in a loop of thinking that's all humanity's about.
The world has grown dark, innocence itself seems to have been brought to an all time low. In the world's darkest hour a noble soul was born. A soul untouched by the horrors of this world. A soul that refuses to be gripped by despair and impurity. That man has lived his entire life with the true ideals of mankind. To look upon him is to know innocence in its purest form. To converse with him is to become purified through the air of his breath. My brothers and sisters, know this: Purity walks among us. He will show us the bright true path away from the darkness that this world has nearly succumbed to.
I cannot say his name for it is not my place to say, but know that he is closer than you might think. He is always watching, always planning ways to save you from yourself. He is a true beacon of light, such as the lighthouse for the boats into his pier. We are the boats in this endless ocean of darkness my friends, and he will guide us to shelter from the storms of the impure. Mark this day well fellows, he has resisted all mortal calls of impurity since his very birth.
PoV means a lot. Just because you don't agree, doesn't make the other party wrong.
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Ethics are a much broader thing than morals. Also, it is good to question the Ethics of a society. Otherwise stagnation begins to set in and the society in question begins to crumble.
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"There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you." -Mazer Rackham - Ender's Game Orson Scott Card
"Heresy is like a garden weed, it won't stop feeding until you... BURN THE WHOLE DAMN GARDEN WITH A FLAMER, BURN IT, BURN IT TO HELL!!!!!" "Is there a wittle puppy in the garden? ITS A DAEMON! BURN IT!"
Only very young children are innocent.