No free speech doesn't mean you'll be punished for saying anything, it just means it's not a right and they can punish you if they want.
Which is true I assume, not being an American or going to an American school I don't know but I assume you can get detention and similar things for words.
O.T
What I don't understand is why the police were even called. They could just give him detention, I really don't understand why the police were involved.
http://www.uscourts.gov/EducationalR...peechMean.aspx
This seems to fall in line with other rulings as long as the school administration said it was obscene. Considering the stance schools have had with guns lately, I'd say that isn't too far of a stretch. So no, it was not oppressing the students 1st amendment rights.Freedom of speech does not include the right:
- To incite actions that would harm others (e.g. “[S]hout[ing] ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.”).
Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919).- To make or distribute obscene materials.
Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).- To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).- To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).- Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986).- Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).
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He probably did something stupid like teenagers tend to do. It's just another story being fished out of nothing."A West Virginia student was charged with causing a disruption at a middle school when he refused to remove a T-shirt that displayed the National Rifle Association's logo and hunting rifle."
The Huffington Post is a news site that will not always have the same people writing. Those people will bend the story for their audience
Last edited by ThatCanadianGuy; 2013-04-23 at 06:38 PM.
Public education is by nature a form of propaganda.
Not necessarily a bad thing, mind you.
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Should have.
Also, I'd like to read more on this case before passing judgment. Or rather, before agreeing with you.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
But that still doesn't explain why the police came.
The only time the police ever came to my high school was if drugs were found, which happened once that I can remember in my five years there. Nothing else would cause the police to be called because the school system could handle the rest internally, whether that be fighting, yelling, vandalism, or refusing to meet school code.
If he refused to take the shirt off, he'd get detention, and if he refused to show up to detention because of some idea of free speech then he'd get suspended, if he kept it up he'd eventually get expelled. But no part of that needs police involvement. That's just escalating the situation more than it needs to be.
They do things a bit differently here in the US. In a lot of districts, there's usually a police officer that's stationed at a school; a positive since it enables a quick response to situations and also helps build a relationship between the cops and their community in a positive capacity.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi