Same as any long term thing. like le mans. they drive it for fun but also for money, who would drive 24 hour race if they didnt get paid and they only lost money?
Only race that i know of which doesnt really reward anything other than bragging rights is Baja 1000. Every year offroad contestants race that approx 1000 mile offroad race and winner gets 4 grand, maybe.
Its for fun. raiding is for fun. some people just want to be the best in it. nothing wrong with that.
Back in my day, we killed bosses 400 times a day...uphill both ways...in the snow...and we fucking liked it. In related news, I hear that uninstalling WoW completely from your hard drive and then reinstalling it resets your RNG numbers. -septor
Who cares how much they spend, it's their lives and they play for the thrill of the competition. Doing that many hours for one or two weeks is fine.
Announce Interrupts: Announces in chat when you interrupt a spell.
Tol Barad Reminder: Reminds you to queue for Tol Barad by printing a message when the battle is approaching.
EasyLogger: Turns on /combatlog inside raid instances, and off outside.
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They still raid more than anyone else. Don't kid yourself. They have alt runs that they must attend so that those alts are equally geared and ready to go for the next expansion. That's still easily 10+ hours a week raiding. It's a lot better, but it's certainly not a breeze. These guys have to live and breathe World of Warcraft every single week.
This kind of guilds have sponsors who pay them for play games, play wow is their job.
It's a lot of time, I won't lie - Think about it! You still have to sleep, and do other things in the day!!
-> The big thing most people don't realize is: Even people raiding 4 hours a day - you still have to show up early, min/max, make sure your system (computer) is running 100%, as well as internet, etc etc.. There is just so much more to this.
Mad props to the world first teams!
With item upgrades etc taken into account, it is pretty safe to say that Method and other top guilds raid more during progression than the average guilds. Our guild for example spends around 10 hours A WEEK on raiding. If they raided 14-16 days every day for 1 month, that is hard to top.
This proves that time matters so much in WF raiding.
Where does this "1-2 month" comes from? They raid hardcore for 1 week. The 2nd week they are back to a "more than normal but not 24/7" shedule. After the 2nd week the content is clear. Do you inculde the first week, where no heroic mode was avaiable? Yeah, clearing ToT normal mode does require 16h/day...
I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn, they will be gone - whispering their hidden song...
I'm not even in a top raiding guild and I play this much, nothing unusual for me. It's their life, their choice.
Ironically they'll spend LESS time raiding a tier than anyone else. Now that it's on farm they can blitz through that raid in half the time as anyone else for the remainder of the expansion. Don't forget the reason you try weird strats/combo's/anything is because they're UNDERGEARED to do the fight. So they have to have that tank change out that one glyph to gain 713 more dps because in conjunction with X Y Z and then A B C they can cause each player blah blah blah. You get it. So once they have it on farm, all they're doing is speeding the clears up EVERY WEEK because they have the mechanics down flawlessly.
And this is AFTER they've been at it on the PTR for who knows how long. It's some crazy dedication.
There is something to take under account. Theres an intensity vs. frequency matter at play here. Yes, over the course of the life span of a tier I (the LFR dude) will probably spend more hours raiding than they will, meaning I will raid more frequently but with less intensity. While they do some rather intense raiding over a relatively small period of time.
The difference is more than just absolute hours spent playing. A 14 - 16 hour a day raid week is something rather harsh, even if they drop it afterwards. That is a rather big compromise of time for a video game no matter how you look at it. Being sponsored or not. This, to me, puts all this "best of the best" raiders into perspective though. That level of effort for a video game is something I find rather strange, but thats just me.
So, if you consider that "time" is relative... maybe in truth, taking under account "quality" of time, they spend way more time than the average person acctually raiding. But that sounds rather philosophical.
Also, remember, that this guys spend a substantial ammount of time on PTR which the average player does not.
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