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    Quote Originally Posted by whoranzone View Post
    This is a praised piece ? Interesting.
    Praised by himself, bad judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemishunter1 View Post
    That would be a bad mistake. We don't dominate because we love and care about people. Reality is that, we need resources for our private corporations, U.S. buys dictators, and politicans in other nations to ensure we get steady supply of those resources below market price i.e. corporations getting 95 percent of oil, when digging in another country,while they pay the few politicians they buy. Best way to handle imperilism in modern day is not by military but by setting up democracy and buying the politicians.
    Also poor people don't get into office, shit people who aren't part of the two major parties don't because they don't have the money to keep the campaign train going, you live in a republic, not a democracy. You are just fortunate your republic has some democratic aspects.

    I use the term "you" speaking of Arctic, i feel i should clarify that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by artemishunter1 View Post
    That would be a bad mistake. We don't dominate because we love and care about people. Reality is that, we need resources for our private corporations, U.S. buys dictators, and politicans in other nations to ensure we get steady supply of those resources below market price i.e. corporations getting 95 percent of oil, when digging in another country,while they pay the few politicians they buy. Best way to handle imperilism in modern day is not by military but by setting up democracy and buying the politicians.
    It will take each and every one of us to build this new world. I will continue to speak, until I can speak no more. The common people are with me, the elitist bureaucrats in charge will have to cave. It may not happen in my lifetime, but it will happen.

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    I don't understand why we have to ask countries to give up a large portion of their sovereignty in order for us to cooperate with them. It doesn't make any sense.
    It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemishunter1 View Post
    Did things change from the past? rather than having one family in power, you have multiple family in power. Deny that please if you can.
    At our core, we're a republic and we elect our officials. Nobody is born into being a senator or the president. Certainly receiving a good, private education, can help you rise through the ranks, but it's the people who ultimately decide whether they want you as their representative/leader. I support some major reforms to overhaul campaign finance and our electoral system in Missouri, but that's a state issue; each state can have it's own electoral and campaign finance system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadvolcanoes View Post
    I don't understand why we have to ask countries to give up a large portion of their sovereignty in order for us to cooperate with them. It doesn't make any sense.
    We currently face the greatest threat to freedom and humanity ever imaginable, the United Nations. An absolute mockery of an organization, an organization that hates freedom. History has shown that the United Nations hates freedom and will do everything in it's power to crush all aspects of freedom and democracy. One of the most important reasons for other countries to become states is that we are the replacement of the United Nations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Daishi View Post
    We currently face the greatest threat to freedom and humanity ever imaginable, the United Nations.
    While I don't think the UN is some great organization that should be placed on a pedestal, calling it "the greatest threat to freedom and humanity ever imaginable" is absurd.

    The greatest threat to freedom? The UN helps to secure a peaceful and democratic election process in many dangerous nations, Iraq being one example.

    The greatest threat to humanity? The UN is among the leaders combating the global AIDS epidemic. They help prosecute war crimes, give aid to refugees, provide food aid to the poor, and engage in active peace keeping missions.

    So...yeah.
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    Why would anyone in Europe want to join the US? Much of your philosophy is completely at odds with the rest of the developed world. Consider attitudes to "socialism" which Americans seem to think equates with evil then attitudes to gay marriage, abortion etc. No other civilised nation would leave anyone without a decent job rotting in a trailer park. I could go on forever. Lastly, except for the southern catholic states, most of europe gave up on christinaity 50 years ago.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Daishi View Post
    We currently face the greatest threat to freedom and humanity ever imaginable, the United Nations. An absolute mockery of an organization, an organization that hates freedom. History has shown that the United Nations hates freedom and will do everything in it's power to crush all aspects of freedom and democracy. One of the most important reasons for other countries to become states is that we are the replacement of the United Nations.
    Huh?

    The UN is two things. One being an organization that runs the largest charity groups out there. They are first responders in cases of national emergencies and natural disasters. Also they handle international standardization (measurements, communications, educations etc.) allowing to countries to conduct commerce and communications with ease and fluidity. Also via different agencies such as the WHO (World Health Organisation) they coordinate international efforts to combat different problems.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...United_Nations They handle pretty much everything related to regulations, standardization, aid/relief and communications.

    This is aspect of the UN is absolutly harmless, cheap and in many areas very effective, altought consistently underfunded.

    The other side of the UN is the Security Council. Now that is a completly impotent and useless agency. The US outright ignores the Security Council unless they agree with the US, and the Russians and the Chinese have a consistent non-intervention policy. Either way, they all consistently veto anything that would mess with the sphere of influence.

    The UN doesn't wield any military power. Has no economic or political influence, beyond 3rd world countries, where it acts mostly as a proxy of western powers.

    What the hell are you talking about?

  8. #48
    Nah it should be the complete opposite. The United States should be more like Europe. I'm tired of all the conservatism in this country.

    Heaven forbid we change the constitution even though it's been 200 years since it was written, and technology, and society has changed vastly since then. Let's not allow homosexuals to get married, even though it's not impacting us in a negative way; let's make them suffer for nothing. You know...let's give drug addicts and thugs that pop out 10 kids really nice welfare benefits; that would make a lot more sense than banning automatic weapons, and letting homosexuals marry. Let's also spend the majority of our budget on the military, so we can go over to the Middle East, and blow shit up, instead of putting that money towards education, research, and health. I could probably go on forever, but you get the picture.

    This was sarcasm in case you needed help figuring that out.
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    why would other countries give up their sovreignety to become a part of this American "empire", you say countries would be able to keep their cultures, then go on to say they would have to change them.

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    Wow, what in the hell was that OP. I find VERY little that I agree with, and I disagree with a lot of the tone of the essay. Saying this is egocentric is a huge understatement.

    "Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, there is the rise of powerful international institutions, such as the European Union, United Nations, African Union and countless others. While initially these organizations may have been intended to help the United States dominate the world..."

    WHAT!?!

    And the whole "Global" United States does not make any sense. "I believe we should have made it clear long before the invasion that the United States would defend Georgian national sovereignty and worked towards helping Georgia maintain a stable, democratic state, one that would eventually become a U.S. state."

    Hand's off Russia, Georgia is ours! Like, WTF.

  11. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Daishi View Post
    I will continue to speak, until I can speak no more.
    Maybe you should listen instead of speak. That also goes for your proposed US foreign policy.

  12. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Daishi View Post
    Collaboration is what I'm proposing. Nobody's talking about "neo-imperialism" or invading other countries.
    And yet in your third paragraph you praise the invasion of two practically independent countries, South Ossetia and Abchasia, and lament the fact that the USA did not go to war with Russia to crush their independence (which many thought Sakashwili expected, but the USA were far more rational than the old autocrat). Your program is hardcore imperialism, and your fear of any organisation where the USA has no absolute control over others shows that as well.

    But the results of your poll have restored my faith in the sanity of this forum, even every other American except you strongly disagrees

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