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  1. #141
    Oh look, Another Jaylock thread where he insults people who don't agree with him...and what do you know, He's banned...again.

    Jesus christ Mods, How many times are you going to pre-ban this guy before you just full out ban him forever? Sheesh

  2. #142
    I liked the Wrath model of flying, once you reached max, you could buy tomes that allowed alt's to fly at earlier levels.

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    i want them too handle flying like this: you need too reach max level of that continent too learn flying in there.
    afterwards you unlock a quest that requires you to do some requirements (nothing too extreme, lets say: revered with 3-5 factions you unlock at max level).
    and then you unlock the ability too purchase boa tomes that you can sent too your alts so they can learning flying in that continent right away.

  4. #144
    No. Do not allow flying on the continent or whatever it is.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Extremeties View Post
    No.

    Flying mounts has been one of the worst features they've ever added to this game.
    At this point, and given the absurdly high amount of FP's, I tend to agree. The only advantage in my eyes is the ability to get to places that were previously unreachable. Z axis can make games much more interesting from a design standpoint.
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  6. #146
    No, leave it to the flight master. Make zone for ground mount flying is a major reason world pvp is as dead as it is.

  7. #147
    not from start, but when at level cap you should be able to fly.
    but when you do it again for the second time. imo you should be able to fly from start.
    just your first char should not.

  8. #148
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    Maybe a combination of both WotLK and MoP. Have no flying until max level. Want your alts to fly to lvl a bit faster? Rep at max level that when you get exaulted you will be able to send books over like in wotlk. it keeps it less entitled and more grindy for those who want it.

    imo, flying has kinda ruined the game. i understand people want to get from A to B faster, but there should be a journey to get there. I'd rather have faster land mounts than flying.

  9. #149
    The less flying in the game, the better. Instead of adding new zones where flying is possible, I would rather they start taking it away.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Itisamuh View Post
    The less flying in the game, the better. Instead of adding new zones where flying is possible, I would rather they start taking it away.
    Why? Why not just use your ground mounts if you love them so much?
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  11. #151
    I loved flying - that was actually part of the reason why I didn't even bother trying MoP. I didn't like the concept to begin with so leveling just sounded like a chore. I got a free trial offer not that long ago, but what do you know, STILL NO DAMN FLYING 7 months after release? ugh. I love the Legion so I'd definitely try a Legion expac with flying, I don't know if I can bothered to play without it again. For me it opened up the world more and removed a lot of the less fun busywork. Having to kill ten extra trash mobs when you already finished the quest isn't "seeing the world" it's busywork.

    For the record my account was active from sometime between AQ and Naxx patch in vanilla until 10 months ago. So, I had to deal with all the annoying trash mobs in vanilla (defias pillagers, redridge gnoll camps) and it certainly wasn't fun. I'm sad my alts had more fun leveling in Northrend than my main - I really think that place looks way better from the air. Leveling was about the only part of Cata I did like.

    Edit: For the immersion argument, I think that's an opinion. Now you can fly - oh sorry, now you can't - now you can again - whoops, forgot how to use your dragon you can't fly again - certainly kills immersion for me. I am also way more likely to stop and appreciate a pretty bit of scenery if taking a look doesn't require killing ten trash mobs.
    Last edited by rebecca191; 2013-04-28 at 04:13 AM.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Itisamuh View Post
    The less flying in the game, the better. Instead of adding new zones where flying is possible, I would rather they start taking it away.
    This.
    Questing in Pandaria was very nice, imagine that with flying mounts ? No fun at all, you could skip half of quests and cutscenes.
    Make RPG real RPG, not just lfr lfd and other fastfood things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deleth View Post
    Why stop at flying mounts? Mounts in general are a horrible feature. Makes the game far to hectic and fast. How about forcing people to run or we could remove even that making walking speed the fasts. Of course all the flight masters get also removed alongside all zeppelins and ships. Gotta swim from Eastern Kingdoms to Kalimdor.
    Dont be so rough. We dont want the game to move in a turtle speed. Ground mounts (60-100% increase) is exactly what is needed - to move fast, but not so fast as it now, where you can move from point A to point B with closed eyes and simply ignore the landscape. I believe 1\2 of players today would not notice either its grass and trees below them or blank white textures.
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  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by blackblade View Post
    It could work if the skies had obsticles/dangers of its own. Sadly, a majority of zones make very little use of that verticle space.
    Oh the skies over Skettis are calling lol. I hated that place back in the day doing skyguard dailies.

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    Why? Why not just use your ground mounts if you love them so much?
    Because it is stupid. To try the game in way, which wasnt designed for. Have you ever tried, for example, Icecrown glacier zone without flying mount ? Try it, and see.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    You are delusional.

    The immersion and experience of an MMO shouldn't be reduced to: 1)get quest, 2) fly high in the air avoiding any and all obstacles in the way of quest objectives, 3)do quest objectives, 4)fly high in the air avoiding any and all obstacles in the way of turning in quest, 5)???, 6) Profit.
    Reassurance topic confirmed.

  16. #156
    While I think flying should not be in the new zones from the start, I also think the new zones should be designed with that in mind. Pandaria is horrendous in terms of design without a flying mount. There are mountains and hills everywhere (Jade Forest, I'm looking at you). Mobs should be the only obstacle, imo.
    Last edited by Phasma; 2013-04-28 at 06:59 AM.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by ssviolett View Post
    Because it is stupid. To try the game in way, which wasnt designed for. Have you ever tried, for example, Icecrown glacier zone without flying mount ? Try it, and see.
    Icecrown and a lot of Stormpeaks were designed for flight though.

    Pandaland kind of isn't.. or, I should say, all the important stuff is accessible without flying.

    The saved time is nice, the feeling of freedom is also nice, but there's no question that flying simply invalidates ANY of the already small amount of challenge in quests. One of the best examples that has always stuck in my mind is the Hellfire Peninsula one where you have to go to the orc village and set 4 buildings on fire. If you buy the flight book, this quest goes from a drawn out effort that's going to invariably have you fighting quite a bit, to one where you'll be in and out in about 45 seconds, as you can simply land on the rooftops.
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    They better. While I do think MoP is a success and a big step up from Cata, leveling in MoP has done a lot of damage. I know at least 3 people that have vowed to never ever level up a new alt ever again, and I totally get it. No linearity, no flying and far too many quests have done more damage than good if you ask me.

    In any case, the damage with flying to the game has been done, and forcing people to go backwards with each alt is not a solution.

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    I like that they didn't allow flying until max level for the other expansions, other than Cataclysm. So continuing on with not allowing it until max level after MoP is more than fine. Questing on the ground is an epic feeling. Maybe not so much in WoW, since we have flying mounts and we are use to them.

    Should flying be a huge gold sink? Eh, maybe or maybe not. Gold making isn't as hard anymore, so putting any price on it wont really matter. It would slow it down somewhat.

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    Only locks getting flying and they have to use demon form to do it.

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