i7 3770k or i5 3570k plus 8gb DDR3

[Deleted]

Hi guys, I cant really choice between one of those, last year i bought an i5 3570k and OCed it to 4,5hz on Air, fairly good.
so this year I was thinkin on buying an i7 3770k to check the difference. I`m getting them at Microcenter, where it`s only 40$ between i5 and i7.

Have you guys ever tried both and seen any difference?? b
Because if there is no difference, I could go for the i5 and add another RAM to reach the 16gb DDR, or buy a Radeon 7970 instead the 7950 I had in mind.

What are your opnions? Thanks <3

[chazus]

If it's just gaming, there is more or less no difference between them, besides the price.

Also, getting more ram won't really help much either.

What games are you playing, because if it's just WoW, going from the 7950 to 7970 won't make a difference either. There is the option of simply not spending more money :P

[Jargan]

No difference in gaming between the i5 and i7, not to mention that the new Intel Haswell processors are coming out in just over a month or so.
Same with the ram. You won't see any difference between 8GB and 16GB in gaming.
With the video card, it isn't really worth the price of the 7970 to replace a 7950. If you have the money and need more performance for some reason (multi-monitor, high res, etc.), I would get another 7950.

[Deleted]

I had in mind getting the p8z77-v MOBO, not the LK one, big difference between them?
I`ve heard many good reviews on ASRock mobos too, but I have no experience on them.
I`m buying a 8gb DDR3 2133 RAM, so the MOBO should be able to run it
Last year i had p8z77-v LE

I`m mainly playing Guild Wars 2, since I got bored of WOW, and of course newly games, like Bioshock Infinite, Sim City and games like that.

So I will keep my Radeon 7950, which I`m planning to OC to 1150-1200/1500-1600.
I can save the money and wait for Haswell then, cause`I will probably need to replace the MOBO too.

Again I ask for your opnions

[chazus]

Honestly, you won't see a huge performance difference in haswell, either. Yes, it's a little faster... But not $300-$350 faster. You already have a very nice system. I might tell someone who is upgrading from something older, perhaps. But not with what you have.

[Faithh]

Well I'll just get a bit deeper. At 4.7GHz with my i7 in BF3 64 the cpu's load is average around 50-60% with a gtx 680 (120hz monitor) and sometimes where there's a bunch of tanks close to eachother and everyone shooting eachother the cpu is really getting a very very hard job with loads of 75%-80% even. If I add another card then for sure my cpu's load will jump more so I can't say if there is a major difference in performance.

If you're just gaming at 60Hz then you don't need an i7 for sure. Gaming at 120Hz is just a luxury but only useful in my view for FPS games tbh.

Playing WoW as main & only game, the i7 is definitely useless.

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I had in mind getting the p8z77-v MOBO, not the LK one, big difference between them?
I`ve heard many good reviews on ASRock mobos too, but I have no experience on them.
I`m buying a 8gb DDR3 2133 RAM, so the MOBO should be able to run it
Last year i had p8z77-v LE

I`m mainly playing Guild Wars 2, since I got bored of WOW, and of course newly games, like Bioshock Infinite, Sim City and games like that.

So I will keep my Radeon 7950, which I`m planning to OC to 1150-1200/1500-1600.
I can save the money and wait for Haswell then, cause`I will probably need to replace the MOBO too.

Again I ask for your opnions

Difference between the LK & V is just mainly the heatsink and possibly some extra useless features which you wouldn't even use. If you would overclock I'd go with the -v / model tbh.

[chazus]

If you would overclock I'd go with the -v / model tbh.

Spending $140 just to up a few hundred mhz ... not worth it, imo.

[Deleted]

Thing is, I`m buying a 144hz Asus Monitor, cause I wanna be able to play it at high frames, atleast PVP and Dungeons where it lag less ( on Guild Wars 2 ).
It`s only 40$ more expensive, but if it Overclock worse than i5 3570k, I get the i5.
You say that, if I have an i7 I manage to get closer to 120hz than i5 ??


Tom`s says Haswell is 10-13% better than 3570k / 3770k, but yeah it`s 300$ or even more.

[Faithh]

Thing is, I`m buying a 144hz Asus Monitor, cause I wanna be able to play it at high frames, atleast PVP and Dungeons where it lag less ( on Guild Wars 2 ).
It`s only 40$ more expensive, but if it Overclock worse than i5 3570k, I get the i5.
You say that, if I have an i7 I manage to get closer to 120hz than i5 ??


Tom`s says Haswell is 10-13% better than 3570k / 3770k, but yeah it`s 300$ or even more.

In raids or heavy battleground with 50000 players you'll never ever reach 144fps to enjoy your lovely 144Hz monitor. An i7 is not going to help in WoW/GW2 at all because the extra cores gives zero zero performance because this game is so horrible optimized for quadcores or an i7. GW2 is just one of a big fail optimized game.

You should only consider a 120Hz or 144Hz monitor if you are really playing responsive games like BF3 at a hardcore/competive level and WoW isn't one.

[Deleted]

I know I wont be able to reach even 60fps on heavy battleground like WvW, but in dungeons and SPvP (5v5) it`s quite doable.

I remember of an insane, rank 1 or something, Rogue back in Cataclysm (forgot his name) saying that Arena is fucking smooth on a 120hz monitor and you can play really better. just sayin`

[Faithh]

I know I wont be able to reach even 60fps on heavy battleground like WvW, but in dungeons and SPvP (5v5) it`s quite doable.

I remember of an insane, rank 1 or something, Rogue back in Cataclysm (forgot his name) saying that Arena is fucking smooth on a 120hz monitor and you can play really better. just sayin`

Then you still don't need an i7 :P WoW just requires high single core performance & high overclocks, not more cores because this game only makes effectively use of 2 (50% max load on i5 and 25% i7)

Well, I decided to go for an i7 just because of curiosity about HT.. You could get an Asrock z77 extreme4 instead of an Asus board so you still save a few bucks and decide if you want to give that for an i7.

Don't upgrade your graphics card at all, literally waste of money.

[chazus]

Arena is fucking smooth on a 120hz monitor and you can play really better

Smoother? Yes. In a way that lets you play better? Definitely not. Not over 60fps, anyway.

[Killora]

Your rig is perfectly fine, doesnt need upgraded at all. the difference between the 3770k vs the 3570k is mostly just hyperthreading and more L3 cache, which will help with minimum framerates VERY SLIGHTLY. No where near enough to justify a $300 CPU to replace your already good CPU.

4.5ghz overclock is already a fine overclock. More than that is mostly an enthusiast overclock and doesnt serve a massive performance boost in comparison to stock to 4.5 (obviously.) certainly not enough to warrant a new motherboard that might not even help if you've hit the thermal wall that ivy bridge has.

The difference between 1600 vs 2133 mhz ram is very minimal, and not really worth the price. you probably wouldnt even notice any performance increase (short of a placebo effect.)

Keep your GPU and overclock it. the difference you'll gain to upgrading the 7950 to the 7970 is not worth the $450 price tag it has.

Just stick with your current PC, it sounds like a great rig. If anything i'd get an SSD if you dont already have one, if you do, then just leave it alone. Don't waste your money.

[vesseblah]

SSD if you don't have one already. Processor upgrades makes no sense.

What you might want is second 7950 card for Crossfire if you really want to reach 150fps with a new monitor on games other than GW2.

[Deleted]

Oh forgot to mention I sold my PC few months ago, so I gotta make a new one again.
So lets say I get an i5 3570k, 8gb DDR3 1600 RAM and the Radeon 7950,
Last year I didnt have a SSD, gonna buy a 120gb Toshiba or Samsung ( forgot the exactly name ), will it do fine?

[MasterNewbie]

Samsung 840 (Pro is optional) is generally the recommended SSD around here, at least so I've noticed. It will do fine, but for me, 120/128 GB is not a lot, and I would bump it up to 240/256 GB.

The parts you mentioned are fine, for a motherboard I would suggest the AsRock Extreme4. $60 off when purchased with the 3570k at Newegg.

If you'd tell us your working budget, a more appropriate build can be recommended.

[Deleted]

i5 3570k at Microcenter is 170$ now, really sick they are! 50$ cheaper than i7 3770k.

Prob will remain on a 128GB SSD so I can keep my money and buy a gaming laptop in few months

[Papi]

yes, the Samsung 840 pro is amazing. I personally went with the 128GB when it was on sale for $89... I truly wish I just sucked it up at the time of the build and went with either the 256GB or even the 512GB.

Through the reviews that I went through, the 256GB, even the 512GB is the way to go. Spend a little more money, yes, reading through the specs, you'll get faster write speeds.

[chazus]

Skip the Pro. Of course anyone who has one loves it, but the 840 is MUCH cheaper, and the (read) performance is the same.

[MasterNewbie]

i5 3570k at Microcenter is 170$ now, really sick they are! 50$ cheaper than i7 3770k.

Prob will remain on a 128GB SSD so I can keep my money and buy a gaming laptop in few months

To get the 3570k at that price, you have to combo it with a motherboard.

The combo purchased at Newegg is $10 more than at Microcenter. After tax Microcenter will probably be more expensive, but you won't have to wait for the goods to arrive. Your choice.