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    Will there be any spectator mode added to arena/rbgs?

    Answer : We don't have any plans for a spectator mode in arena/rbgs.

    There goes the will of anybody to participate in any kind of rated pvp. This is discouraging on so many levels..

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    Yeah, I was surprised it was so blunt. Previous answers have always hinted that it was something they'd like to do in the future it just wasn't high priority. This answer shoots the question dead.

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    Fun thing is when they say working on spectator mode for pet battle...
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    All you have to do is approach a pet battle that you will see when you walk close to it. Spectating an arena match would be harder to implement, as there's hundreds of matches going on at the same time and they're instanced as well.

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    In rbgs I can see it causing a lot of fps/lag issues for some and it would also open the door for cheating. There are already groups that try to throttle ppls ips and do other things to force d/cs, this would be a new way to do that along with allowing ppl to have others watch parts of the map they would never be able to see.
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    The lack of a spectator mode is whats keeping wow from being on mlg, so I don't think it matters if it's hard to implement or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschachs View Post
    The lack of a spectator mode is whats keeping wow from being on mlg, so I don't think it matters if it's hard to implement or not.
    It also makes it very hard to learn to PvP better, especially for unpopular specs.

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    No it's not. It's been implemented on private PvP servers since forever, blizzard is just too shit to do it.
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5937443702#10

    and the posts under it, read the whole topic actually so you get the idea.

    And it doesn't keep wow from being mlg, other things do.

    In response to reschachs, there is specator mode at tournamets, so what are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by koaxialus View Post
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5937443702#10

    and the posts under it, read the whole topic actually so you get the idea.

    And it doesn't keep wow from being mlg, other things do.
    No, the lack of spectator mode is keeping wow from being on mlg. %99 that and %1 some irrelevant stuff.

    FYI : Its not like most of us players are going to make any money from wow being a succesfull e-sport. But that dismissive post is enough to make us feel like we are playing a second class pvp game.

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    i think its more to prevent cheating.
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    I think they previously said that they did not want to have extra eyes helping people out and etc. Only reason I remeber them saying no besides bugs/lag.
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    Would have been fun with a spectator mode, shame

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    Imagine all the people spectating reckful/swifty or some other e-celeb? When they're streaming they have 5-6k viewers at a time, if they all wanted to spectate in-game I'd assume the lag would be horrendous. If they limit the number of spectators, chances are you're not gonna spectate specific teams any time soon unless they also implement some type of queue. Which is ridiculous. Not to mention plenty of ghosting in RBGS.

    It seems like a lot of work when you can just watch 2500+ streams which is basically the exact same thing as spectating.

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    I still don't understand why some people would want to watch other people play a game all day long. You will not get better by spectating what 2400 people do. Chances are that you won't be able to apply those tactics in whatever lower bracket you play in.

    I would like if someone would explain to me why they enjoying watching other people play video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I still don't understand why some people would want to watch other people play a game all day long. You will not get better by spectating what 2400 people do. Chances are that you won't be able to apply those tactics in whatever lower bracket you play in.

    I would like if someone would explain to me why they enjoying watching other people play video games.
    i dont believe your claim that watching someone play wont increase your skill level. i dont play WoW anymore but i do play LoL and i can say with a straight face that watching some of the best junglers play ive been able to apply those techniques to my game and found it to be quite successful.

    certain people absorb information different ways. i hate to read instructions, i find that if i watch someone put something together in a video or in person i can then easily do it myself. can i put something together while reading only the instructions? absolutely but its just easier for me to comprehend if i see someone do it. some people are the other way around.

    i apply this to video games as well. i can sit and read about the best players tips, strategies and shit all day long. its just easier for me to absorb that information when i see them actually do it. the same goes for LoL. its leaps and bounds easier for me to watch theoddone or saintvicious when they jungle so i can see what theyre actually doing, versus just reading about it in one of their guides.

    i watch people stream games because most of the ones i watch, go into detail as to what theyre doing, why theyre doing and how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Cailan Ebonheart View Post
    I still don't understand why some people would want to watch other people play a game all day long. You will not get better by spectating what 2400 people do. Chances are that you won't be able to apply those tactics in whatever lower bracket you play in.

    I would like if someone would explain to me why they enjoying watching other people play video games.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschachs View Post
    The lack of a spectator mode is whats keeping wow from being on mlg, so I don't think it matters if it's hard to implement or not.
    People don't even care about spectating(I personally don't). But it is required in tournaments. It is pretty much whats keeping wow pvp from being more competitive.

    Thats the issue most people have with wow not having a spectator mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dokilar View Post
    i dont believe your claim that watching someone play wont increase your skill level. i dont play WoW anymore but i do play LoL and i can say with a straight face that watching some of the best junglers play ive been able to apply those techniques to my game and found it to be quite successful.

    certain people absorb information different ways. i hate to read instructions, i find that if i watch someone put something together in a video or in person i can then easily do it myself. can i put something together while reading only the instructions? absolutely but its just easier for me to comprehend if i see someone do it. some people are the other way around.

    i apply this to video games as well. i can sit and read about the best players tips, strategies and shit all day long. its just easier for me to absorb that information when i see them actually do it. the same goes for LoL. its leaps and bounds easier for me to watch theoddone or saintvicious when they jungle so i can see what theyre actually doing, versus just reading about it in one of their guides.

    i watch people stream games because most of the ones i watch, go into detail as to what theyre doing, why theyre doing and how to do it.
    Okay, thanks for your response. I just needed a straight answer on this. Watching other people play video games has never made me a better player though. For example, in Soul Calibur 5 player lobby mode, you're basically forced to watch people play if you suck at the game(The lobby is structured in a king of the hill style).

    Long story short I would never improve by watching top Siegfried players play against other people. Would I try and use those tactics I watched and apply it to my own game? Sure. But it would fail me every time just because I didn't have the basic fundamentals down beforehand as well as those tactics feeling completely unnatural. Not to mention that those tactics would never work against other people at my level just because at scrub level any tactic works. What I'm trying to say is you need to become a good player beforehand to actually understand and apply what top players are doing.

    You have to evolve as a player instead of jumping bridges that lead you nowhere. At least for me that's how it is. To me, becoming a better player is about playing thousands of games over and over again and mentally improving each game. How do good players get better if there's nobody above them? Its called repetition and the willingness to improve yourself on an individual level.

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    I don't know why they don't implement a spectator support system similar to the brawler arena. You could actually be in the stands in an arena and not ghosted onto the viewpoint of a combatant. It should be very easy to implement.

    You simply travel to the open world location of the arena you wish to watch. Upon zoning in, you get a menu to select which instance to watch (hopefully the menu shows the MMR of the competing teams). Sit in the stands and observe, Ancient Rome style.

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